JRE #1486 - Honey Honey

5-Jun-20

This podcast features Honey Honey, a band from Los Angeles, CA, featuring Suzanne Santo and Ben Jaffe. The band recently reunited after a 2-year hiatus. Rogan and the band discuss a wide range of topics, from their band’s history and reunion to music, social justice, and even the Dalai Lama.

Here are 15 major topics discussed in the podcast:

Honey Honey’s Reunion

The band reunited after a 2-year hiatus, during which they weren’t speaking.
The COVID-19 pandemic played a role in their reunion, as they both became concerned for each other’s well-being.
They acknowledged that they both needed to step back and do some work on themselves before they could successfully reunite.
Ultimately, they realized that the connection they shared was too strong to let go of.

Music and Performance

The band discusses their musical influences, including Gary Clark Jr. and John Prine.
They reminisce about their experience performing with Gary Clark Jr. and how their performance of “Midnight Train to Memphis” got taken off the internet.
They discuss the intimacy of performing at venues like the Troubadour in Los Angeles and the importance of connecting with audiences.
Suzanne Santo shares her experience of chickening out of telling John Prine how much she loved his music.

Social Justice

The band and Rogan discuss the George Floyd protests and the Black Lives Matter movement.
They express their deep concern and anger at the police brutality and systemic racism that plagues the United States.
They touch on the topic of mental health and the importance of addressing the psychological toll of being a police officer.
They discuss the systemic issues that have led to the problems within communities of color and the importance of systemic change.

The Dalai Lama

Suzanne Santo reveals that she shares a birthday with the Dalai Lama.
Rogan and the band discuss the selection process of the Dalai Lama and the implications of being chosen as a spiritual leader at a young age.
They touch on the historical and cultural significance of the Dalai Lama and his role in Tibetan Buddhism.
The discussion highlights the complex and often misunderstood nature of spirituality and leadership.

Modeling and Beauty Standards

Suzanne Santo shares her experience as a model, revealing the pressures and unhealthy expectations placed upon her.
She discusses the impact of beauty standards on mental health, including eating disorders and self-esteem issues.
Rogan and Suzanne Santo both agree that there is something inherently problematic about being paid to look beautiful.
They emphasize the importance of finding a balance between physical appearance and inner worth.

Psilocybin Mushrooms

Rogan and the band discuss the potential benefits of psilocybin mushrooms and the need for decriminalization.
They advocate for a more compassionate and open approach to psychedelic use and the need to recognize their potential for personal growth and healing.
They discuss the dangers of profiting from psilocybin mushrooms and the importance of respecting their sacred nature.
The discussion explores the complex relationship between spirituality, mental health, and the use of psychedelics.

Narcissism

Rogan and the band analyze the phenomenon of narcissism, particularly in relation to Donald Trump.
They discuss the dangers of unchecked narcissism and the impact it can have on society.
They explore the motivations behind Trump’s actions, speculating on his desire for approval and validation.
The discussion touches on the concept of ego and the need for self-awareness in leadership.

The Rock

Rogan and the band express their admiration for Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.
They highlight his success, hard work, and genuine kindness.
They discuss the role of masculinity in society and how The Rock embodies a positive and healthy image.
They speculate on the possibility of The Rock running for president in the future.

The South

Rogan and the band discuss the history of the South and the impact of slavery and hookworms.
They explore the origins of stereotypes about southerners and the role of parasites in affecting mental health.
They touch on the complex issue of race and the importance of understanding historical context.
The discussion challenges listeners to reconsider their assumptions about southerners and the factors that shape their identity.

The Power of Music

Rogan and the band reflect on the power of music to connect people and evoke emotions.
They discuss how music can be used to express personal experiences, create shared memories, and challenge societal norms.
They share their perspectives on the significance of music in shaping cultural identity and social change.
The discussion emphasizes the universal language of music and its ability to transcend boundaries.

The Importance of Conversation

Rogan and the band highlight the importance of open and honest conversations, even when they involve difficult topics.
They emphasize the need to listen to different perspectives and challenge assumptions.
They advocate for empathy and understanding, recognizing the complexities of human experience.
The discussion encourages listeners to engage in meaningful conversations and strive for mutual understanding.

The Future of the World

Rogan and the band discuss their hopes and fears for the future of the world.
They acknowledge the challenges facing society, including climate change, social injustice, and political polarization.
They express their belief that collective action and a shift in consciousness are necessary to overcome these challenges.
The discussion underscores the importance of optimism and hope in the face of adversity.

The Nature of Reality

Rogan and the band explore the nature of reality, questioning what is real and what is perceived.
They discuss the role of media and social media in shaping our understanding of the world.
They touch on the concept of truth and the difficulty of discerning it in a world filled with misinformation.
The discussion encourages listeners to be critical thinkers and question the narratives presented to them.

The Importance of Connection

Rogan and the band emphasize the importance of human connection and the need for meaningful relationships.
They discuss the role of friends and community in supporting each other through difficult times.
They explore the power of empathy and the need to recognize the shared humanity of all people.
The discussion encourages listeners to cultivate meaningful connections and build a more compassionate world.

Here are 5 memorable quotes from the podcast:

“Sometimes that’s all it takes. You know, we all get set in our ways. You get these grudges and these stupid things. You just gotta talk it out. Talk it out.” -Suzanne Santo, reflecting on the importance of communication and letting go of grudges.
“You don’t live forever. Just know when your children won’t live forever. No one lives forever. You live, you die, you gotta keep moving. Why you’re alive? You should just be happy.” – Joe Rogan, offering a perspective on the value of life and happiness.
“I think people that do shit like that, they do it because their life sucks. Let’s hope their lives get better. Let’s do that. Let’s give them the tools for for them.” – Joe Rogan, advocating for compassion and understanding, even for those who engage in harmful behavior.
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