JRE MMA Show #69 with Yves Edwards

2-Jul-19

This podcast features a lively conversation between Joe Rogan and UFC Lightweight veteran Yves Edwards, delving into a diverse range of topics that touch on societal norms, cultural differences, and the complexities of the fighting world. The conversation flows effortlessly between lighthearted banter and thought-provoking discussions, highlighting Edwards’s insightful observations and Rogan’s signature curiosity.

Topics:

1. The Evolution of Language and Offensive Terms:
   1. Yves and Joe engage in a discussion about the changing landscape of language and how certain words have become increasingly taboo.
   2. They contemplate the fluidity of offensive terms and the need for a more nuanced understanding of intent and context.
   3. The use of the word “bitch” as a prime example of this phenomenon, exploring how the same word can convey different meanings depending on context.
   4. Ultimately, they agree that a universal language based on images or culturally relevant symbols could potentially bridge the gap in understanding between cultures.
2. The Fascinating World of Pachinko:
   1. Yves recounts his experience with the popular Japanese gambling game, Pachinko, describing it as a unique and intriguing cultural phenomenon.
   2. He highlights the mesmerizing nature of the game, which involves dropping ball bearings into a machine and watching them bounce around, creating a captivating and potentially addictive experience.
   3. He acknowledges the mystery surrounding the game’s rules and the inherent strangeness of winning ball bearings as a prize.
   4. Despite his curiosity, Yves ultimately confesses that he’s not drawn to the game, finding it a bit silly.
3. The Controversial Topic of Body Shaming:
   1. The conversation shifts to the double standards and sensitivity surrounding body shaming, particularly in relation to women.
   2. Yves expresses his frustration with the limitations placed on open discourse about physical appearance, highlighting the double standard between how men and women are often judged.
   3. He uses the example of Lizzo, a plus-size singer, to illustrate the complexities of navigating the issue, emphasizing that societal perceptions of body weight are subjective and often influenced by gender.
   4. Ultimately, the conversation grapples with the challenges of finding a balance between expressing opinions and avoiding unnecessary offense.
4. The Intriguing Science Behind Man Spreading:
   1. Yves and Joe delve into the biological and anatomical reasons behind the controversial phenomenon of “man spreading” on public transportation.
   2. They discuss how the differences in pelvic structure and femoral neck angles between men and women can contribute to varying levels of comfort when sitting with legs together.
   3. The conversation takes a humorous turn as they playfully explore the potential power dynamics that might arise if women were to be the dominant gender, imagining how they might retaliate against men’s “man spreading.”
   4. The lighthearted banter ultimately leads them to acknowledge the importance of understanding and respecting individual differences.
5. The Power and Mystery of Elk Meat:
   1. Yves describes his newfound appreciation for elk meat, emphasizing the distinct flavor and texture that sets it apart from commercially raised options.
   2. He explains how the way an animal lives and dies can affect the taste of its meat, highlighting the importance of sustainable and ethical hunting practices.
   3. He recounts his initial hesitation to try elk meat, but ultimately relishes its unique qualities, comparing it to the taste of a “good life.”
   4. The conversation touches on the importance of respecting nature and appreciating the natural cycle of life and death.
6. The Terrifying Encounters with Predators:
   1. Yves and Joe share their experiences and perspectives on the dangers of encountering wild animals, particularly tigers.
   2. They explore the horrifying videos of tigers chasing motorcyclists in India, highlighting the sheer power and unpredictability of these predators.
   3. They discuss the stark contrast between human vulnerability and the animal kingdom’s raw power, noting how these encounters remind us of our place in the natural order.
   4. They acknowledge the challenges of co-existing with these powerful animals, highlighting the delicate balance between conservation efforts and human safety.
7. The Evolution of American Culture and Genetics:
   1. The conversation takes a turn toward socio-cultural observations, with Yves expressing concern about the potential for genetic decline in American society.
   2. He argues that the increasing sedentary lifestyle, reliance on technology, and unhealthy habits have the potential to weaken the gene pool over multiple generations.
   3. He contrasts this with the strong and resilient people of the Bahamas, who have adapted to a more challenging environment and have a deep connection to their natural surroundings.
   4. The discussion raises thought-provoking questions about the impact of environmental factors and lifestyle choices on human evolution.
8. The Thrill and Danger of Free Diving:
   1. Yves recounts the incredible free diving skills of his cousin, highlighting the unique and seemingly fearless approach to underwater exploration in the Bahamas.
   2. He shares anecdotes about his cousin’s ability to hold his breath for extended periods and even call for the boat to be moved while submerged in the water.
   3. The discussion touches on the inherent dangers of free diving and the importance of respecting the power of the ocean and its inhabitants, particularly sharks.
   4. Despite his own fear of sharks, Yves acknowledges the awe-inspiring nature of these creatures and their crucial role in maintaining the delicate balance of marine ecosystems.
9. The Future of Communication and Telepathic Connectivity:
   1. Yves and Joe speculate about the potential for future advancements in technology, particularly in the realm of communication.
   2. They discuss the possibility of developing a universal language that can bridge cultural divides and allow for seamless understanding between people from different backgrounds.
   3. They also contemplate the emergence of telepathic communication, drawing parallels to the recent development of mind-reading technology used in video games.
   4. The conversation explores the profound impact these advancements could have on society, redefining our understanding of human interaction and communication.
10. The Internet’s Impact on Discourse and Anonymous Toxicity:
    1. Yves and Joe discuss the pros and cons of online forums and the challenges of navigating the often toxic nature of online communities.
    2. They acknowledge the value of online discussions for sharing knowledge and engaging in deep conversations, but lament the prevalence of negativity and anonymity that can fuel destructive behavior.
    3. They offer their perspectives on why anonymous users often resort to hostility and negativity, attributing it to a lack of accountability, social pressure, and a tendency to seek power in a virtual space.
    4. The conversation raises important questions about the ethical considerations of online interactions and the need to cultivate a more positive and respectful online environment.
11. The Role of Fighting in Conflict Resolution and Self-Reflection:
    1. Yves and Joe examine the role of fighting in resolving conflict and providing valuable life lessons.
    2. They argue that fighting, when approached with respect and discipline, can serve as a tool for self-discovery, boundary-setting, and understanding the consequences of one’s actions.
    3. They criticize those who dismiss fighting as a means of resolving issues, emphasizing that it can provide a necessary outlet for aggression and a sense of justice.
    4. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of integrating fighting into a larger framework of self-awareness and personal growth.
12. The Debate on Bare Knuckle Boxing:
    1. Yves and Joe discuss the recent rise of bare knuckle boxing and the ethical concerns surrounding the sport.
    2. They acknowledge the brutal nature of the sport and the risks associated with bare knuckles, emphasizing the potential for severe cuts and broken hands.
    3. They express their preference for traditional boxing with gloves, believing that the added protection enhances the sport’s longevity and minimizes the risk of long-term injuries.
    4. The conversation touches on the complex relationship between risk, reward, and entertainment in the fighting world, highlighting the need for responsible regulation and ethical considerations.
13. The UFC’s Partnership with ESPN and its Impact on MMA:
    1. Yves and Joe discuss the UFC’s recent partnership with ESPN and its potential impact on the growth and visibility of MMA.
    2. They acknowledge that the partnership has increased the sport’s reach and exposure to a wider audience, particularly among casual sports fans.
    3. They also believe that ESPN’s involvement will lead to more investment in MMA and create more opportunities for fighters to showcase their talents on a larger platform.
    4. The conversation explores the potential for ESPN to elevate MMA’s status as a mainstream sport and foster greater appreciation for the fighters’ dedication and skills.
14. The Controversial Practice of Weight Cutting:
    1. Yves and Joe delve into the contentious practice of weight cutting in MMA, expressing their concerns about the safety and fairness of the current system.
    2. They highlight the extreme dehydration and potential health risks associated with drastic weight cuts, arguing that it creates an uneven playing field for fighters who are naturally heavier.
    3. They praise the ONE Championship organization for its innovative approach to weight management, which eliminates extreme weight cuts and encourages fighters to compete at their natural weight.
    4. The conversation encourages a shift toward a more ethical and health-conscious approach to weight management in combat sports.
15. The PFL’s Unique Scoring System and its Impact on Fighter Strategy:
    1. Yves provides a detailed explanation of the PFL’s scoring system, which incentivizes fighters to win by stoppage and accumulate points throughout the regular season.
    2. He discusses how the system influences fighter strategy, encouraging them to fight more aggressively and prioritize finishes over decisions.
    3. He highlights the added excitement and complexity of the PFL’s format, as fighters constantly monitor their point standings and strategize for playoff seeding.
    4. The conversation provides a clear and engaging overview of the PFL’s unique format and its potential for creating a more dynamic and unpredictable fighting experience.
16. The Rise of Francis Ngannou and His Terrifying Power:
    1. Yves and Joe discuss the dominance of Francis Ngannou, a UFC heavyweight contender known for his devastating knockout power.
    2. They marvel at Ngannou’s ability to deliver knockout blows with seemingly effortless force, acknowledging his unique physical attributes and explosive striking technique.
    3. They highlight Ngannou’s potential to become a force in boxing, speculating on his power and ability to compete with some of the best punchers in the sport.
    4. The conversation provides a glimpse into the evolution of the heavyweight division and the emergence of new and exciting fighters who are redefining the sport.
17. The Champion Mindset and the Importance of Mental Toughness:
    1. Yves and Joe explore the mental fortitude required to compete at the highest levels of combat sports, emphasizing the importance of unwavering dedication and an ability to overcome adversity.
    2. They discuss how fighters like Tony Ferguson and Kamaru Usman have demonstrated remarkable resilience and mental toughness, pushing their bodies to their limits and persevering through injuries and challenges.
    3. They acknowledge the unique blend of physical and mental strength needed to succeed in the fighting world, highlighting the importance of training both body and mind.
    4. The conversation provides insights into the psychology of elite athletes and the mental strategies that contribute to their success.
18. The Complexities of Fighter Development and the Role of Smaller Promotions:
    1. Yves and Joe discuss the challenges of fighter development and the importance of smaller regional promotions in providing a foundation for aspiring fighters.
    2. They argue that rushing young fighters into the UFC too early can be detrimental to their growth and longevity, emphasizing the need for experience and development on a less demanding circuit.
    3. They highlight the importance of building skills, confidence, and experience in smaller promotions before entering the UFC’s more competitive environment.
    4. The conversation underscores the value of a well-rounded approach to fighter development, emphasizing the importance of both physical and mental preparation.
19. The Legacy of Mike Tyson and His Impact on Boxing:
    1. Yves and Joe pay tribute to Mike Tyson, a legendary boxer who revolutionized the heavyweight division in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
    2. They discuss Tyson’s ferocious power, intimidating style, and the lasting impact he had on boxing, rekindling interest in the sport and establishing a new era of aggressive fighting.
    3. They also explore the complexities of Tyson’s life and career, acknowledging his personal struggles and the pressures he faced as a young champion.
    4. The conversation provides a nostalgic and insightful look back at a pivotal figure in boxing history and the enduring legacy he continues to inspire.
20. The Phenomenon of Deontay Wilder and His Devastating Punching Power:
    1. Yves and Joe discuss the incredible punching power of Deontay Wilder, a current heavyweight contender known for his knockout artistry.
    2. They marvel at Wilder’s ability to send opponents flying with a single punch, highlighting his unique style and remarkable physical strength.
    3. They compare Wilder’s punching power to that of Mike Tyson and other legendary boxers, speculating on his ability to deliver knockout blows that defy conventional physics.
    4. The conversation provides a fascinating insight into the world of heavyweight boxing and the awe-inspiring power possessed by some of the sport’s most formidable fighters.
21. The Importance of Fighter IQ and Adaptability:
    1. Yves and Joe emphasize the importance of fighter intelligence and adaptability, recognizing that physical power alone is not enough to guarantee success in the fighting world.
    2. They discuss how fighters like Stipe Miocic and Daniel Cormier have demonstrated remarkable fight IQ, adapting their strategies to overcome challenging opponents and capitalize on their vulnerabilities.
    3. They highlight the importance of understanding opponent’s weaknesses and adjusting one’s own game plan to exploit those weaknesses.
    4. The conversation underscores the critical role of mental agility and strategic thinking in the world of combat sports.
22. The Future of the Heavyweight Division and the Need for New Blood:
    1. Yves and Joe speculate about the future of the UFC heavyweight division, recognizing the need for new and exciting fighters to emerge.
    2. They discuss the emergence of fighters like D’Angelo Valaskiaz, a powerful and athletic heavyweight who has the potential to shake up the division.
    3. They also acknowledge the dominance of Francis Ngannou and the challenges other fighters face in overcoming his formidable power.
    4. The conversation provides a glimpse into the exciting potential of the heavyweight division and the promise of new rivalries and battles to come.

Memorable Quotes:

1. “We got a word like that. A lot of people do those words are expanding. There’s more of those words than before.” – Yves reflects on the ever-changing landscape of language and how certain words become increasingly taboo over time.
2. “I think once we could read minds, and then you just see intent and there’s no like words like because right now it’s just words that convey intent, some of those words are forbidden.” – Yves contemplates the potential for mind-reading technology to revolutionize communication and eliminate misunderstandings based on word choices.
3. “You can still say a dude’s ugly. Nobody gives you a hard time. You can say a dude’s fat or a dude’s ugly. Everybody’s like fine. No problem.” – Yves highlights the double standards surrounding body shaming, emphasizing how men are often treated differently than women when it comes to physical appearance.
4. “The overall width of the pelvis is relatively greater in females, and the angle of the femoral neck is more acute. These factors could play a role in making a position of sitting with the knees close together less comfortable for men.” – A spinal neurosurgeon provides a scientific explanation for “man spreading,” debunking the notion that it is simply rude behavior.
5. “I’m like, ‘Man, you want to come make a million dollars?'” – Joe Rogan playfully challenges Yves to recruit new fighters for the PFL, emphasizing the lucrative prize for winning the tournament.