JRE #1092 – Mary Lynn Rajskub

3/14/2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1092 – Mary Lynn Rajskub

This episode dives into the life and comedic journey of actress and stand-up comedian Mary Lynn Rajskub. Rogan and Rajskub discuss a wide range of topics, from her early days as a performance artist to her experiences in the world of comedy, acting, and the sometimes-uncomfortable aspects of fame. This episode is packed with insightful reflections on the creative process, the challenges of self-discovery, and the importance of finding community and connection.

The conversation explores themes of self-improvement, the evolution of personal perspectives, the power of vulnerability in comedy, and the complexities of navigating the world of show business. While not overtly controversial, there are poignant moments of reflection on Rajskub’s struggles with self-doubt, social anxiety, and finding her authentic voice, all framed within a larger discussion about the transformative power of humor and the process of becoming a more confident and self-assured individual.

Major Topics:

1. Early Days in Show Business: Rajskub’s path to comedy was unconventional, starting with performance art. Her initial goal wasn’t to be a comedian, but rather to express herself in a way that was both challenging and liberating. The conversation explores the role of early experiences and how they shape a comedian’s style.
   1. Performance Art: Rajskub discusses her experience with performance art in art school, describing the “weird and open-ended” nature of the genre.
   2. Discovering Comedy: Rajskub explains how her early experiences with open mics and the San Francisco comedy scene, which was more alternative and less formal than the typical comedy club scene, shaped her unique comedic voice.
   3. The Influence of Others: Rajskub talks about being inspired by established comedians who were performing in these alternative spaces and how this shifted her perspective on stand-up.
   4. Finding Her Own Style: The episode highlights the unique approach Rajskub developed, emphasizing her ability to use awkwardness and vulnerability as comedic tools.
2. The Comedy Store and its Impact: Rogan and Rajskub reminisce about the Comedy Store, a renowned comedy club in Los Angeles, and its unique ecosystem. They discuss its role in the development of comedic talent and the shift in its atmosphere over time.
   1. A Positive Community: Rajskub describes the Comedy Store’s current supportive environment and how it contrasts with the competitive atmosphere she experienced in the 1990s.
   2. A Place for Growth: Rogan and Rajskub discuss the importance of the Comedy Store as a training ground for comedians, acknowledging that it offers opportunities for growth and development.
   3. Paying Dues: The conversation touches on the issue of compensation for performers, with Rajskub highlighting the disparity in pay between established comedians and those still developing their careers.
   4. A Place to Push Boundaries: The Comedy Store is presented as a place where performers can experiment and refine their material, even if it means facing criticism and challenges.
3. The Impact of “24” and the Challenges of Fame: The conversation touches on Rajskub’s experience on the hit TV show “24,” a major turning point in her career. Rajskub discusses the challenges of navigating newfound fame and how it impacted her stand-up career.
   1. Shifting Perceptions: Rajskub explains how her role on “24” changed the way people perceived her, leading to both positive and unexpected experiences.
   2. The Impact on Stand-Up: Rajskub discusses the unique dynamic of having an audience that was primarily familiar with her from “24” rather than her stand-up work and how she had to adjust her performances to accommodate this shift.
   3. The Burden of Versatility: Rajskub highlights the challenges of being recognized for both her comedic and dramatic work, describing the pressure to deliver both styles convincingly.
   4. Finding her Stand-Up Voice: The conversation highlights the importance of staying true to her comedic style and developing her material in a way that felt authentic and engaging, even when facing diverse audiences.
4. The Importance of Self-Improvement and Pushing Boundaries: Rogan and Rajskub discuss the importance of continuous self-improvement and the value of pushing oneself beyond comfort zones. They share personal anecdotes and insights about their own journeys of self-discovery and growth.
   1. Embracing Discomfort: Rajskub explains how she has learned to embrace discomfort as a tool for growth, both in comedy and in her personal life.
   2. Incremental Progress: Rogan and Rajskub discuss the power of taking small steps and building momentum, emphasizing that significant change is often the result of consistent effort and a willingness to push oneself beyond limitations.
   3. The Value of Struggle: The conversation highlights the idea that struggle is often a necessary part of growth and that facing challenges can ultimately lead to a deeper sense of satisfaction and accomplishment.
   4. Finding Inspiration: The episode explores the role of inspiring individuals, like the Navy SEAL David Goggins, who demonstrate the power of self-discipline and resilience to overcome adversity.
5. Mental Health and Psychotropic Medication: Rajskub and Rogan discuss the complexities of mental health and the role of psychotropic medication. They explore the potential side effects of these medications and raise questions about their impact on individuals’ behavior and actions.
   1. Psych Medication and Violence: Rogan and Rajskub engage in a thought-provoking discussion about the potential correlation between certain medications and violent behavior, highlighting the need for further research and awareness.
   2. The Importance of Holistic Solutions: The conversation emphasizes the need to address mental health issues in a multifaceted way, going beyond medication and considering factors such as social support, therapy, and lifestyle changes.
   3. The Challenge of Isolation: Rajskub and Rogan acknowledge the role of isolation in exacerbating mental health issues and the importance of fostering connection and community to support those struggling with these challenges.
   4. Responsibility and Accountability: The episode raises important questions about accountability and the complex interplay of personal responsibility and systemic factors in shaping individual behavior.
6. The Future of Comedy and the Role of Special Projects: Rajskub and Rogan explore the evolving world of comedy, with a focus on the growing importance of stand-up specials and the impact of streaming platforms.
   1. The Power of Specials: Rogan and Rajskub discuss the potential impact of a well-crafted stand-up special on a comedian’s career, both in terms of recognition and exposure.
   2. Shifting Landscape: The conversation highlights the changing dynamics of the comedy industry, with the emergence of streaming platforms like Netflix and Amazon providing new opportunities for comedians to reach wider audiences.
   3. The Commitment of Creating a Special: The episode acknowledges the challenges associated with producing a stand-up special, from writing and refining material to securing funding and promoting the final product.
   4. The Future of Rajskub’s Career: The conversation encourages Rajskub to pursue a stand-up special, expressing confidence in her talent and potential.
7. The Importance of Community and Connection: Rogan and Rajskub discuss the significance of community, friendship, and the importance of finding a supportive network. They explore the role of these connections in navigating the challenges of life, both personally and professionally.
   1. The Value of Friendship: Rajskub and Rogan emphasize the importance of having close friends, describing the impact of these connections on their own well-being and the power of having a supportive network.
   2. The Importance of Shared Experiences: The conversation explores the role of shared experiences in forging bonds and deepening friendships, particularly in the context of the comedy world.
   3. Finding a Sense of Belonging: The episode highlights the value of finding a community where individuals feel accepted, supported, and encouraged to be their authentic selves.
   4. The Power of Kindness: Rogan and Rajskub discuss the importance of showing kindness and compassion, recognizing that small acts of generosity can have a significant impact on others.

Memorable Quotes:

• “I just came with a group of people like, I’m gonna do some live shows. I’m like, no business. Being in LA. No business. Just doing weird shows because that that’s what I was compelled to do.” – Rajskub describes her unconventional path to comedy, emphasizing the importance of following her passion rather than pursuing traditional paths to success.
• “I don’t find you to be awkward either. Maybe we just don’t make each other awkward.” – Rogan’s observation about Rajskub’s personality highlights the significance of finding people who make you feel comfortable and supported.
• “You only have a few how many years you have in this life? Well, this year is gonna be highlighted by this decision.” – Rajskub emphasizes the importance of making meaningful choices and taking responsibility for their impact on your life.
• “Comedy kinda saved me.” – Rajskub reflects on the profound impact of comedy on her life, highlighting its role in helping her find her voice and overcome challenges.
• “If you wanna take credit for the good things that men have done, you have to take credit for all the war. Like, that’s also what they’ve done. Men have caused all of it.” – Rajskub challenges traditional notions of masculinity and calls for a broader discussion about the impact of men’s actions on society.