JRE #1010 – Brian Redban

9/7/2017






Joe Rogan Podcast – #1010 – Brian Redban

Joe Rogan Podcast – #1010 – Brian Redban

This podcast features a conversation between Joe Rogan and comedian Brian Redban, diving into a wide range of topics. The discussion covers intriguing concepts like the power of the mind, the influence of technology, and the absurdity of certain online communities. Redban’s unique perspective adds a layer of humor and irreverence to the conversation, making for an engaging and thought-provoking listen.

Topics Explored:

  • Climate Change and Hurricanes: The podcast opens with a discussion on the recent hurricanes, specifically Harvey and Irma. Rogan expresses concern over the potential impact of warmer oceans on hurricane intensity.
    • Rogan points out the unusual nature of two major hurricanes hitting within a short time frame.
    • He highlights the potential for even larger and more powerful hurricanes due to warmer oceans.
    • The discussion touches on the vastness of the ocean and the feeling of being at its edge.
    • Rogan emphasizes the need to reconsider our impact on the environment, particularly the ocean’s ecosystem.
  • The Biggest Living Organism: Rogan and Redban discuss the honey fungus in the Blue Mountains of Oregon, a single living organism spanning 2.4 miles.
    • The conversation touches on the concept of interconnectedness and the scale of life on Earth.
    • It leads to a discussion about the metric system vs. the imperial system, with Rogan expressing frustration at the US’s continued reliance on miles and inches.
    • The topic delves into the history of the metric system in the US, including the Metrc Conversion Act of 1975.
    • Rogan ponders the future of measurement systems, speculating on the potential for a global shift towards the metric system.
  • The Ever-Present Devices: Rogan and Redban explore the implications of devices constantly listening to us, citing Alexa, Siri, and other voice assistants.
    • Redban states that these devices are always listening, highlighting the erosion of privacy in the digital age.
    • The conversation delves into the rapid pace of technological advancement and its impact on personal lives, particularly for younger generations.
    • Rogan expresses concerns about the increasing access to information, especially its potential for misinformation and manipulation.
    • They touch upon the formation of online communities, including groups like flat Earthers and vegan bloggers, which can create division and conflict.
  • The Flat Earth and Simulation Theories: Rogan and Redban discuss the prevalence of the flat Earth theory and its potential link to mental illness.
    • Rogan points out the absurdity of the flat Earth theory and the growing number of people who believe it.
    • Redban expresses amusement at the flat Earth community, having shifted from annoyance to fascination.
    • The conversation transitions to the simulation theory, which Rogan admits to embracing as a possible reality.
    • They explore the concept of a deeper connection to reality that goes beyond our senses, leading to a discussion on the placebo effect and its implications.
  • The Power of Music and Goosebumps: Rogan and Redban delve into the science behind music-induced goosebumps, discussing a study that links it to strong emotional reactions.
    • The discussion highlights the power of music to evoke strong emotions and the potential for its use in therapy.
    • Rogan ponders the novelty of music and its impact on listener experience, suggesting that repeated exposure can diminish the emotional response.
    • Redban shares his personal experience of experiencing goosebumps primarily from live performances.
    • They touch upon the evolution of music broadcasting, reminiscing about the days of DJs playing records and the occasional skips and static.
  • The Pre-Internet Era and Social Media Evolution: Rogan and Redban reminisce about life before the internet and cell phones, highlighting the stark contrast in communication and access to information.
    • The conversation touches upon the cultural shift in communication, from public shouting and answering machines to the dominance of social media and instant messaging.
    • Redban describes the evolution of social media from answering machine messages and away messages to ring back tones and status updates.
    • They lament the pressure to conform to societal expectations, particularly when it comes to music preferences.
    • Redban shares his guilty pleasure of enjoying Taylor Swift’s music, despite potential judgment from peers.
  • The Yeezy Phenomenon: Rogan and Redban discuss Kanye West’s Yeezy brand, with Rogan expressing his dislike for the shoes’ aesthetic.
    • Redban highlights Josh Martin’s keen fashion sense, using him as a litmus test for current trends.
    • Rogan criticizes the Yeezy shoes, comparing them to Rolexes and questioning the value proposition.
    • The conversation explores the concept of luxury goods and their appeal, including the status symbol associated with Yeezy.
    • Redban acknowledges the comfort factor of Yeezy shoes, but emphasizes that other brands offer similar comfort at a lower price point.
  • The Freddie Mercury Biopic: Rogan and Redban discuss the upcoming Freddie Mercury biopic, highlighting the casting of Rami Malek (from “Mr. Robot”) as Mercury.
    • The conversation touches upon the anticipation for the film and the accuracy of Malek’s resemblance to Mercury.
    • Rogan mentions his personal association with Queen’s song “Dragon Attack,” using it as his “freeze song.”
    • Redban discusses his experience with cryotherapy and its potential benefits, including increased anti-inflammatory markers and norepinephrine levels.
    • The conversation delves into the placebo effect and the potential for altering reality through mental control and physical manipulation.
  • The Wim Hof Method: Rogan shares his experience with Wim Hof, a practitioner of extreme cold therapy and controlled breathing techniques.
    • Hof is known for his ability to endure extreme cold, including running marathons in shorts and sandals.
    • Rogan highlights Hof’s philosophy and his belief that controlled breathing and mental focus can influence physical resilience.
    • The conversation touches upon the body’s adaptation to extreme environments, citing examples from Inuit communities and cryotherapy users.
    • Rogan promotes the benefits of sauna use, citing research suggesting a significant decrease in mortality across various causes.
  • The John Jones Steroid Controversy: Rogan and Redban discuss the recent steroid controversy surrounding UFC fighter John Jones, exploring the possibility of tainted supplements or intentional sabotage.
    • Redban accurately predicted the steroid controversy earlier in the podcast, based on Jones’s past behavior and history with performance-enhancing drugs.
    • Rogan and Redban discuss the testing process used by USADA, highlighting its rigorous nature and effectiveness in catching cheaters.
    • The conversation delves into the potential for sabotage, pointing out the risks of pro fight camps and the presence of resentful individuals.
    • Rogan expresses disappointment and sadness at the possibility of Jones’s career being tainted by a steroid scandal.
  • The CRISPR Revolution: Rogan and Redban discuss CRISPR, a gene-editing technology that has the potential to revolutionize medicine and create new products.
    • The conversation highlights CRISPR’s potential for treating diseases, altering embryos, and even creating new food products.
    • Redban cites examples of CRISPR being used to create neon green beer and new colors of chocolate.
    • Rogan speculates on the potential for CRISPR to create superhumans, drawing parallels to comic book storylines.
    • The conversation touches upon the prevalence of autism and its potential connection to technology, diet, and gut bacteria.
  • The Future of Humanity: Rogan and Redban engage in a philosophical discussion about the future of humanity, exploring the potential for evolutionary changes driven by technology and societal pressures.
    • Rogan ponders the possibility of humans becoming more integrated with technology, creating a hybrid species of “robot people” with advanced abilities.
    • The conversation touches upon the potential for autism to become a dominant trait in the future, driven by environmental factors.
    • Redban expresses concern about the potential loss of human interaction and emotion due to the increasing reliance on technology.
    • The conversation explores the possibility of humans evolving into a new species with enhanced cognitive abilities, potentially even telepathic communication.
  • The Placebo Effect and Mental Control: Rogan and Redban discuss the placebo effect and its potential for influencing physical and mental well-being.
    • Rogan argues that belief systems, whether religious or otherwise, can have a powerful impact on individuals, potentially leading to a placebo effect.
    • The conversation highlights the intricate relationship between mind and body, suggesting that mental control can impact physical outcomes.
    • Redban emphasizes the need to explore and understand the full extent of our mental capabilities and their impact on our lives.
    • They ponder the potential for mental manipulation and the dangers of falling prey to deceptive practices.
  • The Evolution of Social Interactions: Rogan and Redban discuss the evolution of social greetings, from handshakes to bro hugs and high fives.
    • Rogan shares Bill Burr’s observation that handshakes were the primary form of greeting in the past, with hugs being a more recent phenomenon.
    • Redban expresses his preference for high fives as a more fun and egalitarian form of greeting.
    • The conversation delves into the nuances of social interactions, including the etiquette of low fives and the potential for misinterpretation.
    • Rogan highlights the ever-changing nature of social norms and the constant adaptation of human behavior.
  • The Importance of Gut Flora and Skin Health: Rogan and Redban discuss the importance of gut flora and skin health, emphasizing the interconnectedness of the body’s ecosystems.
    • Redban shares his experience with ringworm and the negative consequences of using antibacterial soap on the entire body, highlighting the disruption of natural skin flora.
    • Rogan promotes the use of tea tree oil and eucalyptus oil for skin health, and specifically recommends Defense Soap for its beneficial properties.
    • The conversation touches upon the dangers of MRSA infections and their prevalence among fighters, highlighting the silent threat they pose.
    • Redban and Rogan emphasize the importance of treating the body as an ecosystem, prioritizing natural remedies over harsh chemicals.
  • The Strange Case of the Ostrich Egg-Sized Bladder Stone: Rogan and Redban discuss the bizarre case of a man with a bladder stone the size of an ostrich egg, highlighting the unusual nature of medical occurrences.
    • The conversation explores the potential for bladder stones to form over extended periods and the discomfort they can cause.
    • Rogan shares his experience with kidney stones and their prevalence among fighters, particularly those who cut weight aggressively.
    • The conversation touches upon the biological variability of individuals and the unique ways in which our bodies respond to diet and other factors.
    • Redban expresses amusement at the sheer size of the bladder stone and speculates on its potential taste.
  • The Tony Hines Club and Nextdoor App: Rogan and Redban discuss the Tony Hines Club’s “mass text” bit, which involves sending out absurd text messages to a large group of people.
    • The conversation transitions to the Nextdoor app, a localized social media platform for neighborhoods.
    • Redban describes the app’s addictive nature and its potential for both helpful and humorous content.
    • Rogan expresses concerns about the potential for invasive technologies to connect directly to our brains, questioning the trustworthiness of governments and corporations.
    • They discuss the increasing reliance on technology and its impact on personal freedom, privacy, and control over our own lives.
  • The Future of Cars and Flying Cars: Rogan and Redban discuss the evolution of cars and the emergence of flying cars.
    • Rogan expresses his preference for older cars with manual e-brakes and his dislike for automated features that can malfunction.
    • Redban shares his experience with his Honda’s Apple CarPlay system, highlighting its potential for glitches and control issues.
    • The conversation touches upon the rapid pace of technological advancement in the automotive industry, including features like lane departure warnings and automatic braking.
    • Rogan expresses concern about the potential for automated vehicles to malfunction and cause accidents.
  • The “Russian Troll Farm” and the Meme Factory: Rogan and Redban discuss the emergence of “troll farms” that specialize in creating and disseminating online propaganda and misinformation.
    • Redban shares his experience meeting someone who works at a “meme factory,” revealing the existence of professional meme creators.
    • The conversation highlights the impact of social media on political discourse and the use of memes to manipulate public opinion.
    • Rogan praises the Twitter account of Wendy’s, highlighting their skillful and humorous responses to online trolls.
    • The conversation touches upon the dangers of online misinformation and the difficulty of discerning truth from falsehood.
  • The Burning Man Tragedy: Rogan and Redban discuss the recent tragedy at Burning Man, where a man died after running into a fire.
    • Rogan speculates on the potential for drugs to have played a role in the man’s actions.
    • They discuss the dangers of psychedelics, particularly for individuals with pre-existing mental health issues.
    • Redban highlights the chaotic nature of Burning Man and the difficulty of discerning reality from hallucination during intense psychedelic experiences.
    • The conversation touches upon the challenges of eyewitness accounts during traumatic events.
  • The FBI’s Entrapment Tactics: Rogan and Redban discuss the FBI’s use of entrapment tactics, highlighting the ethical implications and the potential for abuse.
    • Rogan cites examples of the FBI talking people into committing crimes they wouldn’t have otherwise committed, often targeting vulnerable individuals.
    • The conversation touches upon the slippery slope of government power and the potential for abuse of authority.
    • Redban expresses concern about the use of entrapment tactics by the FBI and other law enforcement agencies.
    • They discuss the importance of accountability and oversight of powerful organizations to prevent abuse.
  • The Release of Charles Manson Follower: Rogan and Redban discuss the impending release of Leslie Van Houten, a follower of Charles Manson, after decades in prison.
    • Redban highlights the potential for a documentary on Van Houten’s experience, from her time as a young teenager to her life as an older woman.
    • The conversation touches upon the impact of incarceration on individuals, particularly those who have spent a significant portion of their lives in prison.
    • Rogan expresses concern about the potential for Van Houten to reintegrate into society after decades of isolation.
    • They discuss the challenges of rehabilitation and the potential for individuals to re-offend.
  • The Power of Hurricane Irma: Rogan and Redban discuss the destructive potential of Hurricane Irma, comparing its energy to the bombs used in World War II.
    • Rogan suggests the use of giant windmills to capture the energy of hurricanes, suggesting a potential solution to the energy crisis.
    • The conversation touches upon the challenges of evacuating during a hurricane, highlighting the potential for gridlock and resource shortages.
    • Redban expresses concern for friends and family in Florida, highlighting the potential devastation of the storm.
    • Rogan discusses the unpredictability of hurricanes and their potential to change direction, causing widespread damage.
  • The “Hurricane Party” Phenomenon: Rogan and Redban discuss the phenomenon of “hurricane parties” and the dangers of ignoring warnings.
    • Rogan highlights the human tendency to underestimate the threat of natural disasters, often leading to complacency and denial.
    • The conversation touches upon the impact of hurricane Harvey on Houston, emphasizing the unprecedented amount of rainfall and flooding.
    • Rogan expresses frustration at the lack of definitive answers regarding the role of human activity in climate change.
    • Redban shares his skepticism about the effectiveness of water-absorbing concrete in mitigating the impact of flooding.
  • The Delta Airlines Flight Through Irma: Rogan and Redban discuss the recent incident where a Delta Airlines flight accidentally flew through Hurricane Irma.
    • The conversation highlights the pilots’ skill and the accuracy of weather satellites in guiding the flight through the storm.
    • Rogan expresses awe at the pilots’ bravery and the technology that allowed them to navigate the hurricane.
    • Redban shares his anxiety and apprehension at the thought of being on a plane during a hurricane.
    • The conversation touches upon the power of natural disasters and the challenges of understanding their scale and impact.
  • The Importance of Recognizing Specialists: Rogan and Redban discuss the importance of recognizing specialists in various fields, particularly in combat sports.
    • Rogan emphasizes the value of specialization in achieving mastery, highlighting Floyd Mayweather’s dominance in boxing.
    • The conversation touches upon the complexities of combat sports, particularly MMA, where different styles can lead to unexpected outcomes.
    • Rogan expresses enthusiasm for the upcoming Canelo Alvarez vs. Triple G fight, highlighting the clash of two top-level fighters.
    • He advocates for mutual respect between different combat sports, emphasizing the value of learning from each other.
  • The Return of Georges St-Pierre: Rogan and Redban discuss the return of UFC fighter Georges St-Pierre and his upcoming fight against Michael Bisping.
    • Rogan expresses excitement about St-Pierre’s return and his potential fight against Tyron Woodley, highlighting the stylistic clash of their fighting styles.
    • He acknowledges the challenge of Bisping’s size and fighting style for St-Pierre, but expresses confidence in his ability to overcome the obstacle.
    • The conversation touches upon St-Pierre’s lengthy hiatus from fighting and his dedication to maintaining his fitness.
    • Rogan discusses St-Pierre’s accomplishments and his status as a hero in Canada, highlighting his global influence.
  • The Gatorade Mold Controversy: Rogan shares his experience with a moldy Gatorade bottle, expressing disgust and vowing never to drink the beverage again.
    • Redban offers a humorous explanation of the mold, suggesting that it may be a result of mishandling or improper storage.
    • The conversation touches upon the importance of food safety and the dangers of consuming spoiled products.
    • Rogan expresses his paranoia about food contamination, citing the potential for mold and other contaminants to exist in sealed products.
    • They discuss the age-old practice of winemaking and the discovery of a 6,000-year-old vessel containing wine residue.
  • The History of Measurement: Rogan and Redban discuss the history of measurement systems, specifically the invention of the thermometer and the development of units for measuring temperature.
    • The conversation highlights the challenges of measuring temperature before the invention of the thermometer, relying on subjective interpretations of “hot” and “cold.”
    • Rogan expresses frustration at the continued use of Fahrenheit in the US, contrasting it with the global adoption of Celsius.
    • They explore the complexities of measurement systems, highlighting the potential for corruption and manipulation in standardized units.
    • The conversation touches upon the concept of a “zero point” in history and the arbitrary nature of timekeeping.
  • The Impact of Psychedelics: Rogan and Redban discuss the dangers of psychedelics, particularly for individuals with pre-existing mental health issues.
    • The conversation highlights the potential for psychedelics to induce hallucinations and disorientation, making them dangerous in certain situations.
    • Rogan shares his personal experience with psychedelics and the altered perceptions they can induce.
    • Redban expresses concern about the potential for psychedelics to exacerbate mental health issues, particularly in vulnerable individuals.
    • They discuss the importance of understanding the potential risks and benefits of psychedelics before using them.

    Memorable Quotes:

    • “We’re next to an enormous chunk of blue. It’s so big. Dude, I’ll tell you, man, when I was living that house in Malibu for a couple months on the water, I rented a spot on the water. That’s when you realize. You go, oh, that’s a monster. That’s like you’re living on the edge of a world that can just reach in and swaddle you.” – Rogan on the ocean’s vastness and power.
    • “The world of the ocean, it is a real trip. If you stop and think about when it really is, because if if it was in the sky above your head, you’d be freaked out all the time.” – Rogan on the ocean’s hidden dangers.
    • “You can fucking find anything online, man. Anything. Any any weird group, you can find them.” – Rogan on the vastness and accessibility of information on the internet.
    • “I think we have a connection that’s changing too. I think our connection with our reality, not just because of information and technology that allows you to call each other in stuff like that. I think the information that we’re getting is is allowing us to like almost like go through the world in away. And things are sinking up more and more with a lot of people.” – Rogan on the evolving relationship between humans and reality.
    • “I think that we don’t know, you know. It just makes me sad. It makes me sad. But 1 day, you know, when they’ll they’ll have it eradicated, but by then, I think there’s gonna be some new methods. I think they’re gonna have genetic methods. That’s the next 1.” – Rogan on the potential for genetic advancements.