JRE #871 – Brendan Schaub

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11/14/2016






Joe Rogan Podcast #871 – Brendan Schaub

Joe Rogan Podcast #871 – Brendan Schaub

This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience features Brendan Schaub, a mixed martial artist, former college & pro football player, and co-host of “The Fighter & The Kid” podcast. They discuss a wide range of topics, including political commentary, social media culture, conspiracy theories, UFC fights, and the business of podcasting.

Topics:

  1. The New World of Comedy and Political Commentary
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the growing trend of comedians incorporating political and social commentary into their routines.
    • They debate whether this approach is effective, noting that some audiences find it off-putting.
    • Joe argues that comedians used to be able to blend political statements with humor, but the current environment is different.
    • Brendan believes that comedy is meant to make people laugh and that political commentary should be reserved for other platforms.
  2. Social Media and Virtuous Signaling
    • Joe shares a story of encountering a “wealthy liberal character” who was aggressively voicing anti-Trump sentiments during a protest.
    • He critiques this behavior as “virtue signaling,” implying that it’s performative rather than genuine.
    • Brendan echoes Joe’s sentiment, calling it “peacocking” and highlighting the potential harm of such actions, citing the example of a sign that read “Rape Melania.”
    • The discussion explores the dangers of online extremism and the blurred lines between legitimate protest and harmful behavior.
  3. The Reality of Celebrity Exiles and Immigration Policies
    • Joe and Brendan poke fun at celebrities who vowed to leave the country if Trump won, pointing out that many haven’t followed through.
    • They highlight the strict immigration policies in Canada, emphasizing that moving there isn’t as easy as many celebrities suggested.
    • This segment provides a humorous take on the disconnect between political rhetoric and practical reality.
    • The discussion reveals the complexities of immigration and the often-unrealistic expectations surrounding it.
  4. The Power and Perils of Conspiracy Theories
    • Brendan’s friend Eddie Bravo is a known conspiracy theorist, and the duo discuss his fascination with various theories.
    • Joe acknowledges that some conspiracies have merit, but he criticizes Eddie’s deep dive into the rabbit hole.
    • They debate the validity of certain conspiracies, including the existence of dinosaurs, the moon landing, and the Illuminati.
    • The discussion delves into the psychological aspects of conspiracy theory belief, exploring the allure of hidden truths and the potential for misinformation.
  5. The Kennedy Assassination: An Enduring Mystery
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the Kennedy assassination, debating whether the truth will ever be fully revealed.
    • They acknowledge the wealth of evidence and speculation but remain skeptical about the possibility of a definitive conclusion.
    • The discussion highlights the enduring fascination with this historical event and the ongoing debate surrounding it.
    • It touches on the limitations of evidence and the challenges of reaching definitive truths about complex events.
  6. Donald Trump: Outsider Politics and Presidential Reality
    • Joe and Brendan speculate on Trump’s initial reaction to the scope of presidential duties, suggesting that he might have been overwhelmed.
    • They discuss the limitations of the presidency and the role of the political machine, noting that Trump is an outsider unfamiliar with the intricacies of Washington.
    • The segment provides a humorous yet insightful commentary on the challenges of navigating the presidency.
    • It explores the potential impact of an outsider’s perspective on the political landscape.
  7. The Culture Wars and the “Not My President” Sentiment
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the “Not My President” sentiment that emerged after the 2016 election.
    • They explore the divisive nature of contemporary politics and the challenges of accepting differing viewpoints.
    • The discussion highlights the cultural battle lines that have been drawn in recent years and the ongoing struggle for political unity.
    • It explores the complexities of democratic processes and the impact of political polarization.
  8. The Trump Family and the Business of Politics
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the Trump family’s involvement in politics and the potential implications for their business ventures.
    • They speculate on the family dynamics and the potential for power struggles as Trump navigates the presidency.
    • The segment touches on the blurred lines between family and political life and the unique challenges faced by the Trump family.
    • It explores the complexities of public perception and the impact of political involvement on personal and professional relationships.
  9. The Role of Law Enforcement and the Trump-KKK Connection
    • Joe and Brendan discuss a photograph of Donald Trump with Muhammad Ali and Rosa Parks, highlighting a lesser-known aspect of Trump’s past.
    • They touch on the controversy surrounding Trump’s alleged ties to the KKK, contrasting this with his involvement in the photograph.
    • The segment raises questions about the complexities of judging individuals based on past actions and the challenges of reconciling conflicting narratives.
    • It explores the lasting impact of historical events and the ways in which they can be interpreted differently by various groups.
  10. UFC 205: The Greatest Fight Card Ever?
    • Joe and Brendan reminisce about the epic UFC 205 event in New York City, highlighting the historical significance of the event.
    • They discuss the intensity of the fights, particularly Conor McGregor’s dominant victory over Eddie Alvarez, which they describe as “magical.”
    • The segment showcases their passion for MMA and their admiration for the athletes and the sport itself.
    • It explores the cultural impact of major sporting events and the ways in which they can transcend traditional boundaries.
  11. Conor McGregor: The Unpredictable Superstar
    • Joe and Brendan discuss Conor McGregor’s unique fighting style and his ability to transcend weight classes.
    • They analyze his strategic choices and his ability to surprise opponents, noting his uncanny accuracy and power.
    • The segment delves into the psychology of fighting and the mental aspects of McGregor’s success.
    • It explores the evolution of MMA and the emergence of athletes like McGregor who defy traditional expectations.
  12. McGregor’s Future: Business Battles and Potential Fights
    • Joe and Brendan discuss McGregor’s desire for a bigger piece of the pie, particularly his interest in WME and the UFC’s business dealings.
    • They speculate on McGregor’s next fight, considering potential matchups with Nate Diaz, Tony Ferguson, and even Tyron Woodley.
    • The segment highlights the intersection of sports and business and the evolving landscape of MMA.
    • It explores the power dynamics between athletes, promoters, and business entities in the world of professional combat sports.
  13. Yoel Romero: The Freak of Nature
    • Joe and Brendan discuss Yoel Romero’s unique physical attributes and his dominance in the UFC.
    • They highlight his incredible athleticism, particularly his strength, power, and flexibility.
    • The segment delves into the physical aspects of MMA and the remarkable capabilities of certain athletes.
    • It explores the scientific and physiological factors that contribute to exceptional athletic performance.
  14. The Controversial Decision in Woodley vs. Wonderboy
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the controversial decision in the Tyron Woodley vs. Stephen Thompson rematch, which was declared a majority draw.
    • They analyze the fight, highlighting the close nature of the contest and the debate surrounding the judges’ scoring.
    • The segment explores the complexities of judging MMA fights and the subjectivity inherent in the scoring process.
    • It touches on the potential for biases and the role of emotions in making decisions within the sport.
  15. The Importance of Nutrition and Weight Cutting in MMA
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the importance of nutrition and weight cutting in MMA, highlighting the dangers and challenges associated with the process.
    • They critique the role of nutritionists like Mike Dolce and explore alternative strategies, including eliminating weight cuts altogether.
    • The segment delves into the science of weight management and the impact of dehydration on athletes’ performance.
    • It raises questions about the ethics and safety of current weight-cutting practices in MMA.
  16. The Future of MMA Weight Classes
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the potential for a future where MMA eliminates weight cuts and adopts a system of “optimal weight classes.”
    • They argue that this would benefit athletes’ health, improve performance, and potentially create a more diverse and exciting sporting landscape.
    • The segment delves into the complexities of weight class regulations and the potential for a more nuanced approach to determining athletes’ competitive weight.
    • It explores the potential for a more sustainable and athlete-centric approach to MMA.
  17. The Rise of Khabib Nurmagomedov and the UFC’s Plans for Russia
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the undefeated Khabib Nurmagomedov and his potential for a title shot, noting his dominant performances and the UFC’s interest in expanding into the Russian market.
    • They speculate on a potential matchup between Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor, highlighting the commercial appeal of a fight in Russia.
    • The segment explores the global reach of MMA and the strategic considerations involved in promoting fights in different regions.
    • It touches on the cultural and political aspects of sporting events and their ability to bridge international divides.
  18. The Boxing Matchup: Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the upcoming boxing match between Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev, highlighting the significance of the matchup.
    • They analyze Ward’s defensive skills and Kovalev’s power, predicting the potential outcome of the fight.
    • The segment showcases their knowledge of boxing and their interest in the sport, offering insights into the fighters’ strengths and weaknesses.
    • It explores the contrasting styles of these two elite fighters and the potential for a compelling matchup.
  19. The State of the UFC: A Look at Upcoming Fights and Divisional Dynamics
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the UFC’s upcoming events, including the Toronto card featuring Donald “Cowboy” Cerrone vs. Matt Brown, and the Brazil card featuring Ryan Bader vs. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira.
    • They analyze the state of various divisions, particularly the light heavyweight division, which they consider to be lacking in new blood.
    • The segment touches on the UFC’s expansion into new markets and their efforts to promote diverse talent.
    • It explores the competitive landscape of MMA and the constant churn of athletes and matchups.
  20. The Importance of Personality and Charisma in MMA
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the significance of personality and charisma in MMA, noting how these factors can elevate athletes’ popularity and increase their earning potential.
    • They highlight Conor McGregor’s unique ability to draw massive crowds and generate excitement, contrasting him with other athletes who lack similar charisma.
    • The segment explores the business side of MMA and the ways in which personalities can drive fan engagement and revenue.
    • It touches on the evolution of athlete marketing and the growing importance of social media in shaping public perception.
  21. The Power of the Organic Network in Podcasting
    • Joe and Brendan discuss the growing importance of the “organic network” in podcasting, where independent creators collaborate and support each other through mutual promotion and guest appearances.
    • They contrast this model with traditional networks, arguing that the organic approach allows for greater creative freedom and autonomy.
    • The segment explores the evolving landscape of podcasting and the shift towards decentralized content creation.
    • It highlights the importance of collaboration and community in fostering a thriving online ecosystem.
  22. The Business of Podcasting: Independence and Creative Control
    • Joe and Brendan discuss their experiences with network agreements and the challenges of maintaining creative control while working with a larger entity.
    • They highlight the importance of independence and the value of having autonomy over their content.
    • The segment explores the power dynamics between podcasters and networks and the ongoing quest for creative freedom.
    • It touches on the financial considerations involved in podcasting and the importance of securing fair compensation for creative work.

Memorable Quotes:

  1. “I go to an action movie, don’t quote an action movie to get a massage. No.” – Joe Rogan emphasizes the importance of staying focused on the intended purpose of a particular activity.
  2. “If you solve the Kennedy assassination, it will not help your life.” – Joe Rogan points out the futility of obsessing over certain mysteries.
  3. “If you do wind up moving to Canada, when you move to Canada, you realize that Canada has a very similar immigration policy to what Donald Trump is proposing. Very strict.” – Joe Rogan debunks the common misconception about Canada’s open immigration policies.
  4. “You don’t need all this other shit. We do all this other shit because even way, way, way back in the day, I was like, why wouldn’t we have a visual element of it?” – Joe Rogan explains the rationale behind his elaborate studio setup and his commitment to producing high-quality content.
  5. “The amount of excitement that that Floyd generates does not even fucking compare to the amount of excitement that Connor generates.” – Joe Rogan highlights the unique charisma and appeal of Conor McGregor, placing him above even Floyd Mayweather in terms of generating excitement.


 

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