JRE #639 – Greg Proops

4/27/2015

This podcast features stand-up comedian Greg Proops, known for his improv comedy on “Whose Line is it Anyway?”, discussing topics ranging from the writing process to the absurdity of modern technology, all with his signature wit and comedic timing.

Provocative themes include the pitfalls of technology addiction, the dangers of over-reliance on advertising, and the potential for abuse within the justice system.

Underlying these topics is a deep exploration of the human condition, our relationship with technology, and the importance of critical thinking in a world saturated with information and misinformation.

Topics and Summary

1. The Writing Process for Comedy and Books

• Proops, unlike Rogan, has actually written a book, “The Smartest Book in the World”.
• He highlights the differences between writing for stand-up and writing for a book, noting the challenge of translating comedic timing and internal logic to the written word.
• Proops discusses the importance of both free-flowing improv and disciplined writing in comedy, comparing his process to jazz musicians who rely on improvisation versus those who meticulously write out their music.
• He shares his personal writing habit of jotting down keywords and concepts, struggling to remember the full 18 minutes of material that goes with them.

2. The Benefits of Handwriting and the Decline of Cursive

• Proops reveals that studies suggest handwriting, particularly cursive, improves memory retention.
• He expresses concern over the decline of cursive writing, noting that it is a unique and personal signature, akin to a fingerprint.
• Proops advocates for the reintroduction of cursive writing in schools, aligning with Michael Moore’s recent suggestion for universal cords and cursive education.
• He shares a humorous anecdote about his mother’s handwritten letter, highlighting the challenges of deciphering cursive in a world increasingly dominated by digital communication.

3. Technology Addiction and the Allure of Flip Phones

• Proops discusses the phenomenon of comedians Ari Shafir and Rory MacDonald switching to flip phones to escape the constant stimulation of smartphones.
• He acknowledges the growing awareness of electronic addictions and the real-life impact they can have.
• Proops suggests that returning to simpler devices like flip phones allows for greater focus and “meet time,” away from the digital distractions of smartphones.
• He also touches on the desire for privacy, noting that some comedians choose to limit their online presence to protect their personal lives.

4. The Absurdity of WWW and the Language of the Internet

• Proops points out the incongruity of using the abbreviation “WWW” for “World Wide Web”, finding it both unnecessary and comical.
• He jokes that “Worldwide Web” is much faster to say, creating a humorous critique of internet jargon and the tendency to use abbreviations when the full phrase is shorter and simpler.
• This discussion highlights a broader theme of the Internet’s impact on language and communication, questioning the use of acronyms and abbreviations in everyday speech.
• Proops’s playful critique of “WWW” exposes the often-unconscious way in which internet slang and abbreviations infiltrate our language.

5. The Dangers of Technology and the Invasion of Privacy

• Proops expresses concern about the increasing pervasiveness of technology and the potential for its misuse.
• He warns against the dangers of oversharing personal information online, drawing a parallel to the movie “She’s the Man” where personal information is exposed on the cloud.
• Proops shares his own experience with webcams, inadvertently recording himself while playing video games, highlighting the ease with which technology can invade privacy.
• He expresses anxieties about the future of technology, envisioning a world where intrusive devices like Google Glass become commonplace.

6. Advertising and the Manipulation of Beauty Standards

• Proops criticizes the use of advertisements featuring flawless models to promote acne medications, finding it manipulative and unrealistic.
• He argues that these commercials perpetuate unrealistic beauty standards, potentially leading to insecurities and psychological distress among viewers.
• Proops highlights the disturbing side effects of these medications, including bloody diarrhea and abdominal cramps, which are often downplayed or omitted in advertisements.
• He questions the ethics of using such commercials to target vulnerable individuals who might be struggling with body image issues.

7. The FDA’s Role in Regulating Medications and the Variability of Human Reactions

• Proops acknowledges the FDA’s approval of acne medications but questions the ethics of potentially harmful side effects.
• He emphasizes the variability of human reactions to medications, pointing out that some individuals might experience no side effects while others could experience severe, even fatal, consequences.
• Proops uses the example of penicillin allergies, highlighting the unpredictable nature of human physiology and the potential risks associated with even commonly used medications.
• This discussion prompts reflection on the complexities of medication regulation and the importance of individual considerations in healthcare decisions.

8. The Rise of Superbugs and the Threat of Antibiotic Resistance

• Proops expresses concern over the growing threat of antibiotic resistance, particularly MRSA infections, which are becoming increasingly common, especially in surgical cases.
• He highlights the potential for bacteria to evolve and outpace our ability to combat them with antibiotics, creating a looming threat to public health.
• Proops points out the irony of humans constantly striving to develop stronger antibiotics while simultaneously creating an environment where bacteria are more likely to develop resistance.
• This discussion underscores the need for responsible antibiotic use and the importance of ongoing research to combat the growing problem of antibiotic resistance.

9. Germophobia and the Psychological Impact of Hand Sanitizer

• Proops discusses the increasing prevalence of germophobia, fuelled by the widespread use of hand sanitizer.
• He argues that excessive hand sanitizer use, particularly among those with obsessive-compulsive tendencies, can actually backfire, reducing the body’s natural resistance to bacteria.
• Proops suggests that hand sanitizer provides a false sense of security, potentially leading to unhealthy anxieties and behaviors.
• He emphasizes the importance of exposing our immune systems to germs to build natural resistance, advocating for a more balanced approach to hygiene.

10. The Paradox of Human Existence and the Threat of Germs

• Proops explores the absurdity of human existence, noting the irony of being terrified of germs when they are an inherent part of our shared ecosystem.
• He highlights the constant risk of contracting germs through everyday interactions, from shaking hands to sharing microphones.
• Proops jokingly questions whether we should sterilize microphones after every use, highlighting the impracticality of eliminating all germs from our lives.
• This discussion encourages a re-evaluation of our anxieties about germs and a deeper understanding of the natural balance within our environment.

11. The Persistence of DNA and the Implications for History

• Proops delves into the fascinating concept of DNA and its persistence, even on seemingly mundane objects like stamps and old documents.
• He shares an anecdote about visiting Independence Hall, where historical documents bear the DNA of historical figures like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin.
• Proops contemplates the implications of this scientific discovery, suggesting that DNA could be used to re-examine history and uncover hidden details about the past.
• This discussion highlights the power of scientific advancements to shed new light on historical events and provide a more nuanced understanding of the past.

12. The Fallibility of Forensic Science and the Implications for Justice

• Proops discusses the recent revelation that a significant portion of hair analysis, a key component of forensic science, was flawed and led to wrongful convictions.
• He expresses outrage over the consequences of this flawed science, including wrongful imprisonment and even executions.
• Proops argues that the justice system is inherently flawed due to its emphasis on winning and losing, which can lead to misconduct and corruption.
• He criticizes the potential for abuse within the system, particularly when dealing with vulnerable individuals, highlighting the importance of accountability and reform.

13. The Militarization of Police and the Racial Bias in Law Enforcement

• Proops discusses the alarming trend of police militarization, the overfunding of law enforcement, and the lack of accountability when it comes to the treatment of minorities.
• He highlights the recent events in Ferguson, Missouri, where police were pressured to generate revenue through minor infractions, exposing a systemic problem within law enforcement.
• Proops emphasizes the importance of recognizing the human fallibility of police officers, their tendency to panic under pressure, and the potential for abuse of power.
• This discussion calls for greater transparency, accountability, and a fundamental reevaluation of the role and function of law enforcement in society.

14. The Limitations of Equality and the Dangers of Physical Confrontation

• Proops addresses the reality of physical inequality, arguing that there is a significant difference in physical strength between men and women.
• He highlights the danger of putting lone female officers in situations where they might be forced to physically confront a larger male suspect, advocating for safety protocols and awareness of physical differences.
• Proops also discusses the constant fear and anxiety that male officers face, recognizing the inherent danger of their profession.
• This discussion delves into the complex relationship between gender, power, and the law, highlighting the need for both sensitivity and realism in law enforcement.

15. The Prison System and the Injustice of For-Profit Incarceration

• Proops criticizes the for-profit prison system, arguing that it incentivizes mass incarceration and disproportionately targets minorities and those with limited resources.
• He highlights the stark contrast between the treatment of those who commit minor offenses and those who commit white-collar crimes, suggesting that the system is biased and inequitable.
• Proops calls for a fundamental shift in the criminal justice system, moving away from the “winner-take-all” mentality that perpetuates injustice.
• This discussion prompts reflection on the ethics of incarceration, the importance of rehabilitation, and the need for a more just and equitable system of justice.

16. The Uniqueness of Comedy and the Power of Individuality

• Proops highlights the unique styles of comedians like Brody Stevens, arguing that their humor is often only funny because of their individual personalities and perspectives.
• He praises the authenticity and raw talent of comedians like Stevens, who can captivate an audience with their unique brand of humor.
• Proops celebrates the diversity of comedy and the power of individuality in creating genuinely entertaining and thought-provoking performances.
• This discussion encourages a deeper appreciation for the art of comedy and the importance of recognizing the unique contributions of individual comedians.

17. The Importance of Community and the Need to Address Inequality

• Proops emphasizes the interconnectedness of human beings, arguing that we are essentially one giant superorganism.
• He criticizes the tendency to ignore and demonize marginalized communities, highlighting the need for a more inclusive and supportive society.
• Proops advocates for systemic change to eliminate poverty and create equal opportunities for all, recognizing that inequality undermines the well-being of the entire community.
• This discussion underscores the importance of compassion, empathy, and a commitment to building a more just and equitable society.

18. The Power of Viral Videos and the Importance of Context

• Proops analyzes a viral video of a journalist being robbed by a group of young men, only to be rescued by police, highlighting the complexities of interpretation.
• He argues that while the video may initially appear to justify the need for police, it is crucial to consider the larger context of poverty and inequality.
• Proops suggests that the video, if understood within the broader context of systemic issues, can actually reinforce the need for social change and address the root causes of crime.
• This discussion highlights the importance of critical thinking and the need to avoid simplistic interpretations of complex social issues.

19. The Impact of Poverty and the Cycle of Crime

• Proops explores the cycle of poverty and crime, noting that children raised in poverty and surrounded by crime are more likely to engage in criminal activity.
• He argues that education alone is not enough to break the cycle of poverty, calling for a more comprehensive approach that addresses the root causes of crime and creates opportunities for marginalized communities.
• Proops advocates for the elimination of ghettos, not through gentrification but through investment in infrastructure, resources, and community support.
• This discussion calls for a more holistic and equitable approach to addressing poverty and its impact on individuals and communities.

20. The Role of Government and the Need for Transparency

• Proops criticizes the lack of transparency within the government, highlighting the disconnect between rhetoric and action.
• He points out the hypocrisy of politicians who claim to be progressive while simultaneously enacting policies that perpetuate inequality and injustice.
• Proops advocates for greater accountability and transparency, arguing that the public deserves to know the truth about government actions and policies.
• This discussion underscores the importance of civic engagement, critical thinking, and holding those in power accountable for their actions.

21. The Success of the Colorado Marijuana Model and the Dangers of Prohibition

• Proops discusses the success of marijuana legalization in Colorado, noting the positive effects on crime rates, drunk driving accidents, and public revenue.
• He argues that the prohibition of marijuana has been counterproductive, leading to black markets, violence, and unnecessary incarceration.
• Proops criticizes the DEA’s continued crackdown on marijuana despite its growing popularity and the lack of scientific evidence for its harmfulness.
• This discussion advocates for a more evidence-based approach to drug policy and highlights the potential for legalization to improve public safety and generate revenue.

22. The Impact of Asset Forfeiture Laws and the Abuse of Power

• Proops criticizes the use of asset forfeiture laws, which allow law enforcement to seize property without due process or proof of wrongdoing.
• He highlights the potential for abuse and the impact on individuals who are unjustly deprived of their property.
• Proops shares a shocking anecdote about Texas law enforcement seizing over $143 million in assets, emphasizing the scale of this problem.
• This discussion calls for a fundamental reform of asset forfeiture laws to protect individual rights and prevent the abuse of power.

23. The Hypocrisy of Government Agencies and the Lack of Accountability

• Proops criticizes the hypocrisy of government agencies like the DEA, which claim to be fighting drugs while simultaneously engaging in questionable behavior, such as attending sex parties with hookers.
• He expresses disappointment over the lack of accountability within these agencies, highlighting the need for stricter ethical standards and consequences for misconduct.
• Proops questions the legitimacy of these agencies and their effectiveness in addressing real drug problems, advocating for a more transparent and accountable approach.
• This discussion raises concerns about the integrity of government institutions and the need for meaningful reform.

24. The Scientific Evidence for Marijuana and the Dangers of Misinformation

• Proops discusses the overwhelming scientific evidence that marijuana is not as dangerous as other drugs, challenging the DEA’s continued stance against it.
• He highlights the irony of government officials denying the reality of marijuana’s benefits while simultaneously promoting potentially harmful acne medications with significant side effects.
• Proops criticizes the spread of misinformation and the perpetuation of harmful stereotypes about marijuana, emphasizing the need for evidence-based policy decisions.
• This discussion underscores the importance of critical thinking, scientific literacy, and challenging outdated assumptions about marijuana and its potential benefits.

25. The Dangers of Addiction and the Need for Individual Responsibility

• Proops acknowledges the reality of addiction, but argues that it is not limited to drugs, highlighting the existence of addictions to activities like gambling, speeding, and even social media.
• He suggests that some individuals have a predisposition toward engaging in “naughty” behaviors and that this tendency can manifest in various forms.
• Proops emphasizes the need for individual responsibility and self-awareness when it comes to potential addictions, encouraging a balanced approach to life and avoiding harmful behaviors.
• This discussion encourages a nuanced understanding of addiction, recognizing its complexity and the importance of addressing underlying issues.

26. The Importance of Individuality and the Right to Self-Expression

• Proops celebrates the right to self-expression and the importance of allowing individuals to make choices about their bodies and identities.
• He discusses the case of Bruce Jenner, who transitioned into a woman, highlighting the need for understanding and acceptance.
• Proops argues that the worst-case scenario of transitioning is simply becoming a woman, questioning why it should be viewed as a negative outcome.
• This discussion underscores the importance of compassion, empathy, and respecting the choices individuals make about their lives and identities.

27. The Dangers of Fat Shaming and the Need for a Balanced Perspective

• Proops criticizes the phenomenon of fat shaming, arguing that it is both harmful and unproductive.
• He highlights the absurdity of criticizing individuals for not having the same physique as a model in an advertisement.
• Proops suggests that those who are uncomfortable with their own bodies might be projecting their insecurities onto others.
• This discussion encourages a more compassionate and balanced perspective on body image and promotes a culture of acceptance and respect.

28. The Importance of Organic Materials and the Beauty of Handmade Objects

• Proops expresses a preference for organic materials and handmade objects, finding them more aesthetically pleasing and emotionally satisfying.
• He compares the feeling of a wooden table to a plastic one, suggesting that natural materials create a more intimate and welcoming environment.
• Proops highlights the unique craftsmanship of artisans and the beauty of objects made with care and attention to detail.
• This discussion encourages a deeper appreciation for the natural world and the value of traditional crafts.

29. The Potential of Marijuana Legalization and its Impact on Society

• Proops discusses the potential benefits of marijuana legalization, citing Colorado’s success in reducing crime and generating revenue.
• He argues that legalization can be a more effective approach to regulating marijuana than prohibition, which has created black markets and violence.
• Proops highlights the hypocrisy of governments that continue to criminalize marijuana while promoting potentially harmful medications and alcohol.
• This discussion advocates for a more rational and evidence-based approach to drug policy and recognizes the potential for legalization to benefit society.

30. The Evolution of Political Parties and the Shift in Progressive Values

• Proops acknowledges the changing nature of political parties, noting that the Republican Party was once considered the more progressive party.
• He observes a shift in progressive values, suggesting that the left has become more aggressive in policing speech and shielding individuals from discomfort.
• Proops questions the effectiveness of this approach, suggesting that it can be counterproductive and stifle open dialogue.
• This discussion encourages a deeper examination of the evolution of political values and the challenges of finding common ground in a polarized society.

31. The Importance of Nature and the Unique Adaptations of Animals

• Proops explores the diversity of nature, highlighting the remarkable adaptations of animals like the diker, a small antelope that can swim underwater.
• He discusses the recent discovery that deer eat birds, challenging common assumptions about animal behavior.
• Proops emphasizes the constant evolution and adaptation of animals, showcasing the resilience and complexity of nature.
• This discussion encourages a deeper appreciation for the natural world and the fascinating adaptations of animals.

32. The Value of Preserving Endangered Species and the Threats to Biodiversity

• Proops expresses concern over the extinction of the northern white rhinoceros, highlighting the threat to biodiversity.
• He criticizes the demand for rhino horns in China, noting the destructive impact of poaching.
• Proops advocates for conservation efforts and the importance of preserving endangered species for future generations.
• This discussion underscores the need to address the human impact on the natural world and protect biodiversity.

33. The Importance of Art and the Legacy of Historical Figures

• Proops discusses the significance of historical art, highlighting the value of original drawings and the artist’s hand.
• He shares a story about a famous rhinoceros that toured Europe in the 1400s, showcasing the fascination with exotic animals in the past.
• Proops explores the legacy of historical figures like Albrecht Dürer, recognizing the enduring impact of their work.
• This discussion encourages a deeper appreciation for art, history, and the legacy of individuals who have shaped our world.

34. The Power of Storytelling and the Importance of Sharing Experiences

• Proops emphasizes the importance of storytelling and sharing experiences, recognizing the value of connecting with others through shared narratives.
• He expresses a desire to validate the experiences of those who have been harmed or silenced, encouraging open dialogue and understanding.
• Proops highlights the power of stories to inspire, educate, and promote empathy.
• This discussion underscores the importance of storytelling as a tool for communication, connection, and social change.

Memorable Quotes

• “You don’t need to believe it, you just need to do it.” – This chilling quote highlights the emphasis on blind obedience and the suppression of critical thinking within Scientology.
• “You’re not supposed to have sugar in that form. It’s supposed to come attached to fiber and watermelon and apples and all these different fruits that we normally get sugar from.” – Proops connects the dangers of refined sugar to the process of extracting cocaine from coca leaves, illustrating the detrimental effects of separating natural substances from their original contexts.
• “That is a sexually attractive woman. It’s not us, but it’s not a dominant paradigm that oppresses it all times, Joe. If you decide to look at the world like that, you can find absolutely everywhere you go.” – Proops challenges the notion of “fat shaming” by arguing that unrealistic beauty standards are ubiquitous and that it is not necessarily oppressive to strive for a particular aesthetic.
• “I don’t even know what the solution would be, but I think there’s a big part of the prison system that’s ingrained in these bad neighborhoods.” – Proops points to the complex relationship between the prison system and poverty-stricken neighborhoods, recognizing that systemic issues contribute to the cycle of crime and incarceration.
• “We’re talking about going back to flip phones being like some big fuck up. And I can’t believe I couldn’t do it. I can’t do it. I’m one of that. Just from 2 sticks together.” – Proops humorously acknowledges his own dependence on technology, expressing both frustration and a sense of irony at his inability to disconnect from the digital world.