JRE #125 – Giorgio A. Tsoukalos, Eddie Bravo

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7/27/2011






Joe Rogan Podcast #125: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos and Eddie Bravo

Joe Rogan Podcast #125: Giorgio A. Tsoukalos and Eddie Bravo

This podcast delves into the fascinating world of ancient aliens and alternative theories, featuring a lively discussion between Joe Rogan, Giorgio A. Tsoukalos (renowned ancient alien theorist), and Eddie Bravo (renowned Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu expert). Topics range from provocative theories about ancient civilizations to the possibility of extraterrestrial intervention in human history. The podcast dives deep into the complexities of belief systems, scientific evidence, and the enduring human fascination with the unknown.

Major Topics:

  1. Ancient Astronaut Theory & Evidence: Tsoukalos passionately argues for the ancient astronaut theory, claiming that extraterrestrial visitors influenced the development of ancient civilizations. He presents compelling evidence, such as massive stone structures that defy modern engineering capabilities and ancient texts hinting at advanced technology.
  2. The Balbec Stones & the Puzzle of Ancient Technology: Tsoukalos focuses on the massive stone blocks in Balbec, Lebanon, arguing that their size and precision suggest a level of technology far beyond what is attributed to ancient civilizations. He highlights the “stone of the pregnant woman,” a monolithic block too heavy for even modern cranes.
  3. The “Restarting” of Civilization & Cataclysmic Events: Tsoukalos and Rogan explore the idea that civilization has been “restarted” multiple times due to catastrophic events, such as the last ice age or other natural disasters. This theory proposes that knowledge and technology have been lost and subsequently rediscovered throughout history.
  4. The Sumerian Anunnaki & the Search for Gold: Tsoukalos and Rogan discuss the Sumerian texts that refer to the Anunnaki, a race of beings who allegedly came to Earth to mine gold. They explore the connection between these texts and modern scientific discoveries about the role of gold in planetary atmospheres.
  5. The Role of Ancient Cultures in Preserving Extraterrestrial Knowledge: Tsoukalos believes that ancient civilizations, like the Sumerians and Egyptians, actively preserved knowledge of extraterrestrial visits, leaving behind architectural and symbolic messages for future generations to decode.
  6. The “Fart Theory” & the Limits of Human Perception: Rogan proposes the “fart theory” to illustrate the possibility of alien senses and technologies beyond our current comprehension. He argues that just as we are unaware of farts without smell, there may be countless phenomena we are unable to perceive.
  7. The “Golden Age” of Ancient Egypt & the Sphinx: Tsoukalos discusses the Orion Mystery, a theory that suggests the Great Pyramids of Giza are aligned with the stars in Orion’s belt. He also highlights the debate surrounding the age of the Sphinx, with some archaeologists claiming it predates the last ice age.
  8. The Ark of the Covenant & the “Transportable of the Tanks”: Tsoukalos speculates that the Ark of the Covenant was not a religious relic, but a container for an extraterrestrial “food dispensing device” or vending machine. He draws on the “Mana Machine” theory, which suggests that the “ancient of days” described in ancient texts was a technologically advanced device.
  9. The Nazca Lines & Evidence of Extraterrestrial Activity: Tsoukalos and Rogan discuss the Nazca Lines in Peru, large geoglyphs visible only from the sky. They explore the possibility that these lines represent landing strips for alien spacecraft and evidence of core drilling activities.
  10. The Mystery of Elongated Skulls & the Star Child Skull: Tsoukalos and Rogan examine the phenomenon of elongated skulls found in various cultures around the world. They delve into the “Star Child Skull,” a particularly intriguing case that suggests a possible non-human genetic influence.
  11. The “Last Untamed Beast” & the Potential of the Human Brain: Tsoukalos and Rogan discuss the idea that humans only utilize a small percentage of their brainpower. They explore the possibility that unlocking the full potential of the brain could lead to extraordinary abilities.
  12. The Nazi UFO Connection & the Search for the Occult: Tsoukalos and Rogan examine the Nazi fascination with the occult, particularly the “Ahnenerbe” society, which investigated ancient texts and conducted expeditions to the poles in search of hidden knowledge. They discuss the possible connection between the Nazis and the development of advanced technology, including UFOs.
  13. The Kardashev Scale & the Evolution of Civilizations: Tsoukalos and Rogan discuss the Kardashev Scale, a classification system for civilizations based on their energy consumption. They explore the idea that humanity is currently transitioning from a Type 0 to a Type 1 civilization, a potentially dangerous period due to the development of advanced technology.
  14. The “Broad Spectrum” of Alien Life & Human Contact: Tsoukalos and Rogan ponder the possibility of a wide range of alien civilizations, from those slightly more advanced than us to those possessing abilities beyond our comprehension. They discuss the idea that some aliens may be observing or even influencing human development.
  15. The Power of Symbols & the Egyptian Language: Tsoukalos highlights the importance of symbolism in ancient civilizations, particularly the Egyptian language, which relied heavily on hieroglyphics. He argues that understanding these symbols is key to decoding the messages of ancient cultures.
  16. The “Return of the Gods” & the Arrival of the Spanish: Tsoukalos and Rogan discuss the idea that some ancient civilizations based their calendars on the return of the “gods.” They explore the coincidence of the arrival of Cortez and Pizarro in the Americas during a period marked by the expected return of the gods.
  17. Collective Consciousness & the Evolution of Understanding: Tsoukalos suggests that our current collective consciousness is more advanced than that of ancient civilizations, allowing us to quickly recognize and understand events, such as UFO sightings, that would have been misinterpreted in the past.
  18. The Search for Evidence in the Human Genome: Tsoukalos believes that the ultimate proof of extraterrestrial intervention will be found in the human genome, suggesting that certain genetic mutations were not random occurrences.
  19. The Potential for a Benevolent Future & the Dangers of Human Behavior: Tsoukalos and Rogan discuss the potential for humanity to evolve to a point where we can engage with other civilizations in a benevolent way. They also acknowledge the dangers of human behavior, particularly our history of exploiting and enslaving less intelligent species.

Memorable Quotes

  1. “If we today couldn’t move this with our modern day cranes, and so, you know, something happened in all of these ancient sites because, you know, we know there’s absolutely no question in my mind that our ancestors… they were extremely smart. They were ingenious. And obviously, did they know how to cut stones and how to transport them and things like that? However, their… and I’m not really interested in moving around stones that are cut from limestone or from sandstone and things like this. But what I’m interested in is stuff like this where it was cut out of granite or out of diorite, where still today we used diamond tipped saw in order to cut any of these blocks that we cut today. And allegedly, our ancestors did this with copper tools, and I’m sorry, somewhere the logic just fails.” – Giorgio A. Tsoukalos highlights the technological limitations of ancient tools in comparison to the impressive feats of stonework seen in ancient sites.
  2. “The fact that the pyramid… I mean, the sphinx also dates to 9,000 BC. Well, that’s 1200… That’s the golden age that everybody talks about in… in… in Egypt. And really a 9,000 BC. Thousands of years earlier, it has to exist because of the thousands of years of rainfall. So you are talking maybe 10,500 BC… 11 or 11?” – Tsoukalos emphasizes the age of the Sphinx and how its water erosion points to a significantly older origin than mainstream archeology currently acknowledges.
  3. “And if that is your definition of God, then I respectfully will tell you that I do not believe in God. Entities like Welles and so what are you talking about?” – Tsoukalos references Albert Einstein’s famous quote about God, emphasizing that Einstein was referring to a personal God, not a universal force.
  4. “But I also think that that is why, that is the reason why we have not yet made official contact with any type of… So we’re not ready. We’re not ready. We fuck too many animals.” – Rogan offers a humorous yet thought-provoking perspective on why humanity may not be ready for official contact with extraterrestrials, considering our track record with other intelligent species on Earth.
  5. “And, you know, so I lost my train of fun. Was that the seasonal season of the industry? Exactly. In special. Especially now in season 3. It’s amazing how many university professors have come forward and agreed to be on a show called ancient fucking aliens, are you kidding me?” – Tsoukalos expresses his astonishment that even university professors, known for their skepticism, are now willing to appear on a show that explores ancient alien theories.


 

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