JRE #1185 – Kelly Slater

This podcast dives deep into the world of professional surfing with 11-time world champion Kelly Slater. From his record-breaking career and insights on surfing’s judging system to his reflections on training, injuries, and the thrilling dangers of big waves, Slater offers a unique perspective on the sport and life beyond the waves. We also delve into his perspective on MMA, exploring the intriguing connection between surfing and martial arts, and his experiences with the fascinating world of wildlife, particularly his encounters with sharks and crocodiles.

Here are some of the major topics explored in the podcast:

1. Kelly Slater’s Foot Injury:

   • Slater details the gruesome details of the foot injury he sustained while surfing in South Africa, highlighting the severity of the fracture and the extensive surgical procedures required.
   • He discusses the complex recovery process, the use of magnets for bone healing, and the effectiveness of hyperbaric chambers for accelerating recovery.
   • The conversation explores the mental and physical challenges of returning to surfing after such a serious injury, showcasing Slater’s determination to compete despite the risks.
   • Slater reflects on the unique pain of watching perfect waves while injured, emphasizing the emotional toll on a surfer.

2. The Connection Between Surfing and Martial Arts:

   • Slater connects surfing with the discipline of yoga, highlighting the importance of flexibility and breath control in both pursuits.
   • The conversation explores the surprising popularity of surfing amongst Brazilians and how it connects with their culture of beach life and athleticism.
   • Slater discusses the unique leg dexterity required for sports like “Sepak Takraw” and its potential applications in combat sports.
   • He analyzes the fighting styles of various MMA fighters, drawing parallels between their techniques and the agility and balance required for surfing.

3. The Importance of Mental Toughness:

   • Slater emphasizes the importance of mental fortitude in surfing, particularly when facing challenging conditions or injuries.
   • He shares a personal anecdote about overcoming fatigue in a critical competition, highlighting the role of mental strength in pushing limits.
   • Slater reflects on the mental and physical pressures of competing at the highest levels of surfing, emphasizing the dedication and sacrifices required.
   • The conversation highlights the crucial role of mental toughness in achieving longevity in a demanding sport.

4. The Art of Surfing:

   • Slater delves into the technical aspects of surfing, explaining the differences between longboarding and shortboarding and the unique skills each demands.
   • He discusses the subjective nature of surfing’s judging system, comparing it to other subjective sports like gymnastics and ice skating.
   • Slater advocates for the inclusion of former professional surfers as judges, arguing for a more informed and experienced perspective on the sport’s intricacies.
   • The conversation explores the technical aspects of wave riding, highlighting the importance of timing, positioning, and maneuverability in achieving high scores.

5. The Thrills and Dangers of Big Waves:

   • Slater recounts the immense power and dangers of big waves, particularly at locations like Teahupo’o, Tahiti, and Cortez Bank.
   • He discusses the challenges of navigating these massive waves and the potential for serious injury or even death, emphasizing the importance of preparation and respect for the ocean’s power.
   • Slater highlights the critical role of safety equipment, such as CO2 vests, and the tight-knit community of big-wave surfers who rely on each other for support and rescue.
   • The conversation explores the adrenaline rush and sense of accomplishment associated with riding big waves, showcasing the allure and risk that drives surfers to seek out these challenging conditions.

6. Encounters with Sharks:

   • Slater shares his frequent encounters with sharks in various surfing locations, emphasizing the daily presence of these creatures in the ocean.
   • He delves into the common misconceptions about sharks, addressing the primal fear that often surrounds them and differentiating between different species and their behaviors.
   • Slater discusses the impact of shark feeding tours on shark behavior, highlighting the potential for desensitizing sharks to the presence of humans and potentially increasing the risk of attacks.
   • He reflects on the complex relationship between humans and sharks, emphasizing the need for respect and understanding, and the importance of conservation efforts to protect these vital predators.

7. The Fascinating World of Crocodiles:

   • Slater shares his experiences with crocodiles in Australia and Florida, highlighting the sheer size and power of these prehistoric predators.
   • He discusses the unique dangers posed by saltwater crocodiles, emphasizing their predatory behavior and the importance of respecting their territoriality.
   • Slater recounts a harrowing story about the death of a kayaker in Africa, emphasizing the deadly potential of crocodile attacks and the importance of safety precautions.
   • The conversation explores the myths and realities surrounding crocodiles, revealing the awe-inspiring nature of these ancient creatures and the importance of conservation efforts to protect their dwindling populations.

8. The Power of Information and Open Dialogue:

   • Slater acknowledges the vast range of information he’s exposed to through his podcast, recognizing the unique opportunity to engage with diverse perspectives and learn about various subjects.
   • He reflects on the evolution of his podcast, emphasizing its origins in casual conversations with comedian friends and its growth into a platform for exploring complex and diverse topics.
   • Slater emphasizes the importance of open dialogue and critical thinking, encouraging listeners to engage with information and form their own informed opinions.
   • He highlights the power of sharing stories and experiences, acknowledging the importance of validating the perspectives and struggles of individuals and groups.

9. The Benefits and Challenges of Intermittent Fasting:

   • Slater shares his experiences with intermittent fasting, detailing his approach and the benefits he’s experienced.
   • He discusses the potential for purging accumulated waste and toxins through fasting, highlighting the importance of proper hydration and electrolyte intake during extended fasts.
   • Slater highlights the potential for weight loss and increased energy through fasting, but also acknowledges the challenges of abstaining from food and the need for proper preparation and support.
   • The conversation delves into the science and anecdotal evidence surrounding fasting, encouraging listeners to explore its potential benefits and limitations.

10. The Ethical Considerations of Animal Captivity:

    • Slater expresses his concerns about the ethics of keeping marine animals, particularly orcas and dolphins, in captivity.
    • He highlights the intelligence and complex social behaviors of these creatures and the limitations of providing adequate space and stimulation in a controlled environment.
    • Slater discusses the controversy surrounding marine parks, acknowledging the potential for harm and exploitation, and advocating for the release of captive animals into protected areas.
    • He encourages listeners to be aware of the ethical considerations surrounding animal captivity and to support organizations working to protect and preserve wild populations.

11. The Importance of Physical and Mental Health:

    • Slater emphasizes the importance of maintaining a healthy lifestyle, highlighting his commitment to exercise and the benefits he’s experienced through rigorous training.
    • He discusses his participation in a fitness competition, showcasing his competitive nature and dedication to pushing his physical limits.
    • Slater acknowledges the importance of mental health, particularly in a demanding sport like surfing, and encourages listeners to prioritize self-care and mental well-being.
    • The conversation encourages listeners to explore various fitness options and to find activities that align with their individual goals and preferences.

Here are five memorable quotes from the podcast:

• “I think I have a pretty good heart, and I feel bad for animals that are locked up that need to travel a hundred miles a day in their social packs.”
• “I’ve always wanted to make the world like my home. I just loved traveling. I love meeting people everywhere.”
• “I’m gonna do 929 points every day. Right now I’m 1600 points ahead of the second place. Fuckers.”
• “You don’t need to believe it, you just need to do it.” – Kelly Slater on the nature of Scientology’s indoctrination.
• “Most people come out of prisons and jails worse than they went in because of this kind of thing that happens to them.” – Kelly Slater on the effects of solitary confinement.