JRE #1232 - Nick Di Paolo

25-Jan-19

#1232 – Nick Di Paolo

This podcast features Nick DiPaolo, a stand-up comedian and writer, sharing his thoughts and experiences with Joe Rogan. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including political commentary, the entertainment industry, and personal anecdotes. Provocative, controversial, and viral issues emerge throughout the discussion, highlighting DiPaolo’s outspoken nature and unique perspective.

Topics:

1. Roger Stone’s Arrest:

DiPaolo shares his personal connection to Roger Stone and Randy Credico, both eccentric figures who have been involved in the Stone case.
He describes Credico’s evolution from a politically-aware stand-up comedian to a figure entangled in the political drama surrounding Stone.
The discussion explores the dynamics between Stone and Credico, emphasizing the tension that arose from their past friendship.
DiPaolo speculates on Mueller’s strategy of targeting Stone to potentially influence Trump, highlighting the potential for Stone to “sing” about Trump’s involvement.

2. The FBI’s Relationship with Whitey Bulger:

DiPaolo delves into the controversial relationship between the FBI and Whitey Bulger, discussing how the bureau allowed him to commit crimes in exchange for information.
He cites the case of four men wrongfully convicted based on Bulger’s actions, highlighting the injustice and corruption within the FBI.
DiPaolo questions the FBI’s accountability for their actions, emphasizing the lack of consequences for their involvement with Bulger.
This discussion explores themes of institutional corruption, the ethical dilemmas of law enforcement, and the lasting impact of unchecked power.

3. The Nature of Law Enforcement:

DiPaolo examines the motivations behind law enforcement, suggesting that the emphasis on making arrests creates a system where officers prioritize numbers over justice.
He argues that this pressure to “win” can lead to questionable practices, especially when officers operate in communities they are familiar with.
The discussion explores the complicated relationship between the public and law enforcement, highlighting the distrust and suspicion that can arise from perceived abuse of power.
This segment delves into themes of accountability, ethical decision-making, and the systemic challenges within law enforcement.

4. The Power of Social Media and Big Tech:

DiPaolo expresses concerns about the influence of big tech companies like Google and YouTube, claiming that they stifle conservative voices and censor content.
He discusses the case of Dennis Prager, a conservative commentator, who faced censorship on YouTube and Spotify, raising questions about the role of these platforms in shaping public discourse.
DiPaolo argues that these companies wield immense power over information dissemination, potentially creating a skewed narrative that favors certain ideologies.
The discussion explores themes of freedom of speech, censorship, and the impact of big tech on democratic processes.

5. Political Correctness and Social Justice:

DiPaolo criticizes the prevailing culture of political correctness, arguing that it stifles free expression and promotes a climate of fear.
He references the “toxic masculinity” discourse, suggesting that it unfairly demonizes men and undermines traditional masculinity.
The discussion examines the challenges of navigating a politically charged environment, highlighting the tension between advocating for social justice and maintaining individual freedom.
DiPaolo challenges the notion that political correctness is a positive force, arguing that it can be used as a weapon to silence dissenting voices and impose a narrow worldview.

6. The “They” Pronoun Controversy:

DiPaolo discusses the controversy surrounding the use of “they” as a gender-neutral pronoun, highlighting the absurdity of language policing and the desire to control individual expression.
He references a California state senator who proposed banning the use of “he” and “she” during committee hearings, showcasing the extreme nature of this movement.
The discussion delves into themes of language evolution, personal identity, and the limits of political correctness.
DiPaolo argues that this type of language control represents an attempt to impose a specific ideology and stifle free thought.

7. The Louis CK Controversy:

DiPaolo discusses the controversy surrounding Louis CK and the leaking of his sexually explicit material, highlighting the double standards in the entertainment industry and the consequences of online exposure.
He references Stanhope’s point about the hypocrisy of punishing CK for his actions, contrasting it with the lack of consequences for those who leaked the material.
The discussion explores themes of privacy, consent, and the power dynamics at play in the digital age.
DiPaolo emphasizes the importance of protecting creative work and the right to privacy, even in the face of public scrutiny.

8. The Importance of Comedy and Creative Process:

DiPaolo discusses the importance of allowing comedians to work out their material, criticizing those who prematurely release or criticize unfinished work.
He emphasizes that comedy is a process that requires experimentation and refinement, highlighting the need for space and understanding from audiences.
The discussion delves into the unique challenges faced by comedians in a society increasingly sensitive to humor and potentially offensive material.
DiPaolo advocates for a more tolerant and forgiving approach to comedy, recognizing the value of creative expression and the need for experimentation.

9. The Impact of Social Media on Audience Engagement:

DiPaolo discusses how social media has changed the way audiences engage with comedy, creating a culture where people feel empowered to express their opinions, even if they are negative.
He highlights the difficulty of navigating this new landscape where jokes can be taken out of context and used to fuel outrage.
The discussion explores the delicate balance between creative expression and social responsibility in the digital age.
DiPaolo emphasizes the importance of understanding the context and intent behind jokes, advocating for a more nuanced approach to humor.

10. The Political Divide and the Role of the Media:

DiPaolo discusses the increasing political divide in the United States, arguing that it is fueled by the mainstream media’s tendency to demonize opposing viewpoints.
He criticizes CNN’s coverage of Trump, claiming that it is excessively negative and lacks objectivity.
The discussion explores the role of the media in shaping public opinion and the potential for bias to contribute to polarization.
DiPaolo argues that the media should strive for fairness and balance, promoting constructive dialogue rather than amplifying division.

11. Trump’s Rhetoric and Political Strategy:

DiPaolo discusses Trump’s communication style, highlighting his use of exaggeration and salesmanship, arguing that it is not necessarily indicative of lying.
He contrasts Trump’s approach with that of other politicians, suggesting that all politicians engage in some level of exaggeration and spin.
The discussion explores the ethics of political communication and the impact of rhetoric on public perception.
DiPaolo argues that Trump’s style, while unconventional, is not necessarily indicative of dishonesty.

12. The Russia Investigation:

DiPaolo discusses the ongoing investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, expressing skepticism about the potential for collusion between Trump and Russia.
He highlights the role of the Steele dossier, a controversial document that was used to justify surveillance of the Trump campaign, questioning its validity and the motives behind its creation.
The discussion delves into the complexities of international relations, political intrigue, and the potential for misinformation to influence political outcomes.
DiPaolo argues that the investigation should focus on uncovering factual evidence rather than pursuing a predetermined narrative.

13. The Cultural Shift and the Rise of Identity Politics:

DiPaolo examines the current cultural landscape, arguing that the rise of identity politics has led to a heightened sensitivity and a culture of victimhood.
He discusses the prevalence of “whataboutism” in political discourse, highlighting how it can derail productive conversations and stifle critical thinking.
The discussion explores the complexities of social justice movements, the challenges of achieving equality, and the potential for unintended consequences.
DiPaolo argues that focusing on individual responsibility and common ground is essential to creating a more inclusive and harmonious society.

14. The Role of Comedy in Society:

DiPaolo discusses the importance of comedy as a form of social commentary and a means of challenging societal norms.
He argues that comedy can be a powerful tool for exposing hypocrisy, challenging authority, and promoting critical thinking.
The discussion explores the evolution of comedy and its role in reflecting and shaping culture.
DiPaolo emphasizes the value of pushing boundaries and using humor to spark dialogue and introspection.

15. The Importance of Individual Expression:

DiPaolo highlights the importance of individual expression and the right to hold unpopular opinions, even if they are deemed offensive.
He argues that censorship and the silencing of dissenting voices are dangerous threats to free speech and intellectual freedom.
The discussion explores the tensions between individual rights and social responsibility in a world increasingly dominated by social media and cultural sensitivity.
DiPaolo emphasizes the need for tolerance and open-mindedness, advocating for a society that values diversity of thought and fosters meaningful dialogue.

16. The Power of Physicality in Comedy:

DiPaolo shares a personal anecdote about being punched in the face by a woman at a comedy club, highlighting the unpredictable nature of live comedy and the potential for violence.
He discusses the importance of maintaining composure in challenging situations, emphasizing the need for self-control and the risks associated with physical retaliation.
The discussion delves into the dynamics of audience interaction, the line between heckling and assault, and the consequences of losing control in a public setting.
DiPaolo emphasizes the importance of professionalism and the need to prioritize safety for both performers and audiences.

17. The Importance of Free Speech:

DiPaolo discusses the importance of free speech and the right to express oneself without fear of censorship or reprisal.
He expresses concern about the growing trend of cancel culture, arguing that it stifles creativity and discourages open dialogue.
The discussion explores the historical context of free speech, the potential for abuse, and the need for a balance between individual expression and social responsibility.
DiPaolo advocates for a more nuanced and tolerant approach to free speech, recognizing that not all opinions are equally valuable but that all individuals deserve the right to express themselves.

18. The Importance of Comedy Clubs and Creative Spaces:

DiPaolo emphasizes the importance of comedy clubs as safe spaces for comedians to experiment and develop their material, arguing that they are essential to the creative process.
He discusses the unique atmosphere of comedy clubs, highlighting the camaraderie among performers and the sense of community that exists within the world of stand-up.
The discussion delves into the history of comedy clubs, the role they play in shaping the art form, and the challenges they face in an ever-changing world.
DiPaolo celebrates the vital role of comedy clubs in nurturing talent, fostering creativity, and pushing the boundaries of humor.

19. The Importance of Personal Growth and Self-Reflection:

DiPaolo shares his personal perspective on the importance of introspection, recognizing the need to challenge one’s own beliefs and biases.
He discusses the value of listening to different perspectives, even those that differ from one’s own, arguing that it is essential for personal growth and understanding.
The discussion delves into themes of self-awareness, empathy, and the importance of engaging in critical thinking.
DiPaolo encourages listeners to embrace intellectual curiosity and a willingness to challenge their own preconceived notions.

20. The Importance of Maintaining Perspective and Humility:

DiPaolo emphasizes the importance of maintaining perspective and humility, particularly when navigating politically charged issues.
He advocates for a more nuanced approach to complex topics, recognizing that there are often multiple sides to every story and that generalizations can be dangerous.
The discussion highlights the need for compassion and understanding in a world that often seeks to divide and conquer.
DiPaolo encourages listeners to approach difficult conversations with an open mind and a willingness to listen to others’ experiences and perspectives.

Memorable Quotes:

“That is so weird. That’s so weird. And he and he said, yeah. Let me know. He goes, I can’t say much. because they just just arrested the FBI. They you they’re gonna turn they try to I see what Mueller’s doing. He’s turning Roger Stone against Trump. Trump is the target Yeah. So he’s gonna threaten him with the you know, he’s sixty something years old. So he could spend the rest of his life in prison or talk. Yeah. You know?”
“This guy had a Nixon tattoo when he was 18 on his back. Roger Stone did. Yes. He marched in the gay parade in New York. I fucking love him. He’s nuts. Body marched in the gay parade in New York. Just the pro now. Right? Well, he’s pro just yeah. You know? So he’s just over the place. He’s all over the place. But he’s a right I mean, he got a nicks intact, though. He’s a fucking right wing. But all the right wing people to get look. Look. Look. Look. That is so ridiculous. The fucking next that’s a good tattoo too. I know you did that. And I got sixty some years old, at least.”
“If you if you had a problem and that guy was coming after you — Oh, shit. Oh my god. — because he’s gonna do it slow. Like, by the time this actually gets into Trump, he’s gonna be I don’t think they do that slow. They do that slow. They do that slow. Whatever they want. I think that’s different than what you’re thinking. Anyway, I’m very confused. At this time, they get to Trump. He’s already so nerve wracked. You know what I’m saying? Because he, like, chips away at his borders, like, slowly but surely takes away all the people around him. Yeah. He gets closer, and he know you know. You know he’s concentrating on the family. You know it. Of course. Of course. Of course.”
“I’m not so right wing, John. How how right wing? Alright. Middle middle right? I’d say — Yes. — center. Right of sun. Not right of sun. Right of sun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What’s wrong with Sienna? Do you like it? First of all, I don’t need to hear it in every fucking airport before I’m doing a gig. Last fucking words, I wanna hear a Wolf Blitzer before my plane crashes.”
“I I I I I I gotta be honest. I haven’t been into these places in a while. But yes. And don’t go to Texas? No. I did. I was just I was in Dallas. And some of the jokes that make people cringe elsewhere were getting rounds of applause. In Dallas, Anytime I said Jew, just, you know, I’m not in a hateful way. It might be fucked tonight, but, you know, even you you say Jew and it’s I say it in a face way. It sounds hate. It does sound. It doesn’t matter where And Louie does a bit about that. And I know you I used to ask Louie when we lived together. I go, how come we first moved to New York? I said I hear people saying, yeah, he’s a Jew or whatever, and nobody gets mad and stuff. because in Boston, if somebody said it, ain’t it? Back in June. But but Dallas was great for me. So Dallas is great. Oh my god. Houston Houston is great. Austin’s great. Texas is the shit.”