JRE #1452 – Greg Fitzsimmons

2-Apr-20

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Joe Rogan Podcast #1452 – Greg Fitzsimmons

This podcast with comedian Greg Fitzsimmons dives into a variety of topics, ranging from the mundane to the downright bizarre, all sprinkled with Fitzsimmons’ signature wit and humor. The conversation explores themes of masculinity, societal expectations, and the absurdity of life’s wild turns.

Topics:

1. The Pandemic and Its Effects on Everyday Life:

Fitzsimmons discusses the pandemic’s impact on masturbation habits, highlighting the challenges of finding time and privacy in a crowded environment.

The conversation delves into the absurdity of societal fears and anxieties related to semen, contrasting it with a more relaxed view of urine.

They also explore the differences in how men and women might react to being in the woods, highlighting the enduring power of gender stereotypes.

Underlying themes include the search for normalcy amidst chaos, the importance of finding humor in difficult times, and the revealing nature of societal constraints.

2. The Prevalence and Power of Coyotes:

Fitzsimmons shares a hilarious anecdote about a coyote’s cunning plan to steal his chickens, using his own dog as an accomplice.

This leads to a discussion about the nature of fear and the power of wild animals, particularly in suburban settings.

The conversation touches on the unexpected resilience of coyotes, their adaptability, and their ability to outsmart humans.

Underlying themes include the ongoing battle between humans and nature, the fragility of human control over the natural world, and the surprising intelligence of seemingly “primitive” animals.

3. The Role of Parasites in Animal Behavior:

Fitzsimmons discusses toxoplasmosis, a parasite that can control the behavior of animals like cats, highlighting its potential impact on human behavior.

The conversation then shifts to baboons, exploring their complex social dynamics and the potential impact of environmental factors on behavior.

Fitzsimmons references a study on baboons that suggests a shift in behavior from aggressive dominance to cooperation after a poison incident, raising questions about the influence of external factors on social structures.

Underlying themes include the hidden forces that shape our behaviors, the delicate balance of power dynamics, and the impact of environmental influences on social development.

4. The “Me Too” Movement and Matriarchal Societies:

Fitzsimmons connects the “Me Too” movement to the dynamics of matriarchal animal societies, specifically citing hyenas, where females dominate due to the perceived weakness of males.

This leads to a broader discussion about the changing roles of men and women in society, challenging traditional notions of male dominance.

The conversation explores the idea that the “aggressive male” archetype is not a universal rule in nature, questioning whether it is a product of our current social constructs or a true reflection of biological reality.

Underlying themes include the evolving definition of masculinity, the challenge of societal norms, and the potential for a more balanced and collaborative future.

5. The Evolution of Humans and Our Future:

Fitzsimmons contrasts the physical strength and intelligence of Neanderthals with that of Homo sapiens, questioning the notion that a larger brain automatically translates to superior intellect.

This leads to a discussion about the diverse forms of humanity throughout history, including the Denisovan hominids and the “hobbit” humans of Flores.

The conversation speculates on the future of humans, suggesting a potential shift towards a different kind of being due to technological advancements and evolving societal dynamics.

Underlying themes include the complexity of human evolution, the potential for future transformations, and the uncertainty of our ultimate fate.

6. The Pandemic and Social Compliance:

Fitzsimmons discusses the remarkable social compliance witnessed during the pandemic, acknowledging the country’s willingness to shut down for a month to combat the virus.

He highlights the contrast between the general compliance and the outlier states like Mississippi and Alabama, emphasizing the political and ideological divides within the country.

The conversation touches on the deep-seated regional identities, particularly in the South, and the historical roots of these divides, linking them back to the Civil War.

Underlying themes include the power of collective action, the challenges of political polarization, and the ongoing influence of history on contemporary culture.

7. The Legacy of the Texas Rangers and Comanche Influence:

Fitzsimmons delves into the history of the Comanches, highlighting their dominance in Texas and their influence on the formation of the Texas Rangers.

He discusses the brutality of the frontier, referencing Cormac McCarthy’s novel “Blood Meridian,” which portrays the violence and savagery of the Texas Rangers in the 1860s.

The conversation touches on the legacy of violence and the ongoing struggle for control in Texas, drawing parallels to the current situation with cartels in Mexico.

Underlying themes include the complexities of American history, the legacy of violence in the West, and the ongoing struggle for power and resources in the modern world.

8. The Immigration Crisis and the Reality of Refugee Situations:

Fitzsimmons discusses the challenges of immigration at the US-Mexico border, recognizing the difficulty in discerning genuine refugees from those seeking economic opportunities.

He emphasizes the reality of dangerous and desperate situations in countries like El Salvador and Nicaragua, highlighting the motivations of individuals fleeing violence and poverty.

The conversation questions the US’s perception of distance and its implications for understanding the urgency of humanitarian crises.

Underlying themes include the ethical complexities of immigration, the human cost of geopolitical instability, and the need for empathy and compassion in the face of suffering.

9. The Absurdity of Human Behavior in the Face of Disaster:

Fitzsimmons questions why humans continue to build houses in hurricane-prone areas, despite knowing the risks and the potential for devastation.

He critiques the lack of investment in disaster preparedness, suggesting a systemic failure to address long-term issues until a crisis forces action.

The conversation connects this issue to broader societal patterns, linking it to the political discourse surrounding stimulus packages and economic inequality.

Underlying themes include the human tendency to prioritize immediate needs over long-term solutions, the political consequences of economic disparities, and the potential for societal change in the face of adversity.

10. The Pandemic’s Impact on Personal and Family Relationships:

Fitzsimmons reflects on the unexpected benefits of the pandemic, including increased family time, closer connections with loved ones, and a renewed sense of appreciation for simple things.

He challenges the notion that constant striving for more material possessions leads to true happiness, suggesting a reevaluation of priorities in the face of crisis.

The conversation highlights the potential for positive change amidst adversity, emphasizing the importance of family and community, and the value of a more balanced and mindful approach to life.

Underlying themes include the power of perspective, the importance of human connection, and the potential for growth through difficult experiences.

11. The Impact of the Pandemic on Comedy and the Entertainment Industry:

Fitzsimmons discusses the unique challenges faced by comedians during the pandemic, particularly the lack of live audiences and the disruption of their usual routines.

He reflects on the importance of recognizing and accepting the reality of the situation, rather than dwelling on anxieties beyond our control.

The conversation touches on the importance of finding new ways to express creativity and connect with audiences in the digital age, exploring the changing landscape of the entertainment industry.

Underlying themes include the resilience of artists, the power of adaptation, and the potential for innovation in the face of challenges.

12. The Underrated Humor of Adam Sandler:

Fitzsimmons argues that Adam Sandler’s comedies are often dismissed by critics but are genuinely funny, highlighting the comedic brilliance of films like “Chuck and Larry” and “Kingpin.”

He challenges the idea of acceptable vs. unacceptable humor, suggesting that Sandler’s style, while unconventional, deserves recognition for its originality and comedic impact.

The conversation delves into the history of comedic styles, comparing Sandler’s work to that of Laurel and Hardy, and highlighting the enduring appeal of absurdist humor.

Underlying themes include the subjective nature of comedy, the importance of embracing different styles of humor, and the enduring power of comedic traditions.

13. The Culture of “Cultural Appropriation” and Its Implications:

Fitzsimmons discusses the controversy surrounding cultural appropriation, particularly in the context of acting, raising the question of whether it is acceptable for a British actress of African descent to portray an American black woman.

He distinguishes between cultural appropriation and blackface, arguing that there is a difference between respectfully portraying another culture and using it for superficial gain.

The conversation highlights the evolving landscape of cultural sensitivity and the challenges of navigating ethical considerations in art and entertainment.

Underlying themes include the complexities of race and representation, the importance of understanding cultural nuances, and the ethical responsibilities of artists in a diverse society.

14. The Power of Acting and Creating Believable Characters:

Fitzsimmons discusses the talent of Cynthia Erivo, praising her ability to create believable characters in shows like “The Outsider,” where she portrays a character on the autism spectrum.

He highlights the power of great acting to draw audiences into the characters’ inner worlds, creating empathy and understanding.

The conversation touches on the art of storytelling and the impact of compelling characters on audiences, emphasizing the emotional power of well-crafted performances.

Underlying themes include the transformative nature of acting, the importance of believable characters, and the power of storytelling to connect with human experience.

15. The Fascinating World of Insects and the Horror of the Natural World:

Fitzsimmons shares a disturbing anecdote about a botfly larva emerging from his brother-in-law’s arm, highlighting the unexpected dangers of the natural world, even in seemingly safe environments.

The conversation delves into the horrors of the insect world, discussing the parasitic nature of botflies and their impact on other animals, comparing them to terrifying monsters.

Fitzsimmons challenges the idea of human dominance over the natural world, emphasizing the power and resilience of insects and other creatures, even in the face of human intervention.

Underlying themes include the unseen dangers of the natural world, the complexity of interspecies relationships, and the humbling reality of our place within the larger ecosystem.

16. The Impact of Invasive Species on Ecosystems:

Fitzsimmons discusses the devastating impact of pythons in the Florida Everglades, highlighting the destruction of native ecosystems and the decline of wildlife populations.

He criticizes the policy of making it illegal to hunt pythons for their skin, arguing that their value as a resource could be used to incentivize their removal and protect the Everglades.

The conversation touches on the human role in ecological destruction and the ethical dilemmas surrounding invasive species.

Underlying themes include the responsibility of humans to protect the environment, the importance of balancing human needs with ecological concerns, and the potential consequences of unchecked human interference in nature.

17. The Power and Danger of Wild Animals:

Fitzsimmons recounts a terrifying story about a man who was chased by a Florida man who was attempting to flee the police, only to be eaten by an alligator.

He highlights the inherent danger of wild animals and the unpredictable nature of their behavior.

The conversation then shifts to the threat of feral bulls in Australia, emphasizing their aggressive nature and the challenges of controlling invasive species.

Underlying themes include the unpredictability of nature, the dangers of unchecked human intervention, and the importance of respecting the power of wild animals.

18. The Hidden Savagery of Domesticated Animals:

Fitzsimmons discusses his experience with chickens, revealing his newfound understanding of their aggressive nature and their capacity for violence, particularly towards rodents.

He contrasts the behavior of chickens with that of cats and dogs, highlighting the surprising ferocity of these seemingly docile creatures.

The conversation explores the hidden nature of domesticated animals and the potential for unexpected behavior when faced with prey or perceived threats.

Underlying themes include the nature of animal behavior, the importance of understanding the wild origins of domesticated animals, and the surprising power and aggression that can lie beneath a seemingly harmless exterior.

19. The Pandemic and the Future of Work:

Fitzsimmons discusses the potential for a shift in the way we work, with more people working remotely and a reduced reliance on traditional office spaces.

He argues that remote work can be more productive for some individuals, challenging the necessity of physical office spaces.

The conversation touches on the potential for a more flexible and decentralized work model, suggesting that the pandemic could lead to lasting changes in the nature of work.

Underlying themes include the impact of technology on work, the potential for increased autonomy and flexibility, and the possibility of redefining the traditional workplace.

20. The Importance of Creativity and Community in Times of Crisis:

Fitzsimmons emphasizes the importance of creativity and community during times of crisis, highlighting the value of connecting with friends and family, and finding new ways to express oneself.

He encourages listeners to embrace the current situation as an opportunity for growth and change, reminding them of the importance of human connection and support.

The conversation acknowledges the potential for a more compassionate and understanding society to emerge from the pandemic, emphasizing the importance of collaboration and mutual support in overcoming challenges.

Underlying themes include the human capacity for resilience, the power of community, and the potential for positive change in the face of adversity.

Memorable Quotes:

  • “If you live at a 2 bedroom apartment and you got 2 kids — Mhmm. — you know, You’re gonna have to jerk off while you’re shitting. It’s the only time you have.”
  • “We’re more terrified of jizz than virtually any other body part. Like, if I had a choice between a guy jizzing on my pants or peeing on my pants, I’d say peeing all day.”
  • “A group of girls in the woods is like, what are your girls doing on here? Do you got a gotta go. Do you have a gun? Yeah. can’t just be in the woods. Yeah. Is it weird that the woods make everything scarier?”
  • “Those fucking crazy. He’s like the road runner. He’s like, you know, the fucking coyote man. Watch out. He’s got some acme shit. except in the in the roadrunner, the coyote never wins. Yeah. In real life, they always win.”
  • “It’s almost like gonna on a micro level, you can look at your own family for a lot of people. Like I know with me, it’s like I’m on the road more than I probably wanna be sometimes because I’m always like, I got a kid in college, I gotta save money, I gotta and now that I’m not working at all for possibly a long fucking time.”



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