JRE #1694 – Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper

Joe Rogan Podcast #1694 – Ms. Pat & Jordan E. Cooper

This podcast features a lively conversation between comedian Ms. Pat, known for her honest and often raunchy humor, and playwright and writer Jordan E. Cooper, the co-creator and executive producer of “The Ms. Pat Show.” They discuss the creation of the show, the challenges of navigating Hollywood, and their shared experiences of finding humor in the face of adversity. The podcast delves into topics like race, gender, sexuality, and the entertainment industry, with a touch of personal anecdotes and insightful commentary on life and culture.

Major Topics:

1. The Ms. Pat Show:

   1. The origin story: How Jordan E. Cooper got involved with the project and how they pitched the show.
   2. The writing process: Challenges of writing original jokes and how Ms. Pat’s stand-up routine inspired the show.
   3. The authenticity of the show: How Ms. Pat’s real-life experiences and personality inform the sitcom’s unique style.
   4. The success of the show: How it defied expectations and found its audience on BET+.

2. Navigating Hollywood:

   1. The importance of honesty and integrity in a sometimes-deceitful industry.
   2. The challenges of being a black writer and the importance of finding allies in Hollywood.
   3. The “gatekeepers” of Hollywood: How executives sometimes hinder creative vision and the importance of pushing back on those limitations.
   4. The power of persistence and belief in your vision: How Ms. Pat and Jordan E. Cooper overcame hurdles and brought their show to fruition.

3. Race and Representation in Entertainment:

   1. The lack of diversity and the need for authentic representation of black voices in entertainment.
   2. The challenges of writing and creating content that reflects real-life experiences of black communities.
   3. The importance of breaking boundaries and defying conventional sitcom formulas.
   4. The evolution of language and how it’s reflected in entertainment.

4. Gender and Sexuality:

   1. The evolving conversation surrounding gender identity and pronouns.
   2. The humor and challenges of navigating these conversations in a changing world.
   3. The impact of generational differences in understanding and acceptance of LGBTQ+ issues.
   4. The importance of open dialogue and acceptance in the face of societal shifts.

5. Humor and Healing:

   1. Ms. Pat’s philosophy of finding humor in pain and using it as a tool for healing.
   2. The power of laughter in confronting difficult experiences and processing trauma.
   3. The importance of authenticity and vulnerability in comedy.
   4. The potential for comedy to inspire connection and empathy.

6. The Power of Collaboration:

   1. The importance of finding trusted collaborators who share your vision.
   2. The dynamics of creative partnership and how it can elevate a project.
   3. The value of pushing each other and challenging the status quo.
   4. The joy and fulfillment of working together on a project you believe in.

7. Personal Stories and Anecdotes:

   1. Ms. Pat’s hilarious and often poignant stories about her childhood, family, and struggles.
   2. Jordan E. Cooper’s experiences as a young writer navigating the entertainment industry.
   3. The impact of personal experiences on creativity and storytelling.
   4. The importance of sharing stories and connecting with audiences on a personal level.

8. The Future of Entertainment:

   1. The rise of streaming platforms and the impact it has on content creation and distribution.
   2. The potential for more diverse voices and perspectives to be heard in the entertainment industry.
   3. The challenges and opportunities of creating content in a rapidly changing media landscape.
   4. The importance of embracing new formats and technologies in storytelling.

9. The Importance of Authenticity:

   1. The power of being yourself and not conforming to societal expectations.
   2. The dangers of trying to be someone you’re not and the importance of embracing your true self.
   3. The importance of being honest and vulnerable, even when it’s difficult.
   4. The beauty of finding strength and humor in your unique identity.

10. Life Lessons and Insights:

    1. The importance of resilience and finding humor in the face of adversity.
    2. The power of believing in yourself and your vision.
    3. The importance of surrounding yourself with supportive people who believe in you.
    4. The value of being true to yourself and your values.

Memorable Quotes:

• “I wish you knew how hard it was for me to text you to actually watch it. I text I I typed it text And I was like, oh, I can’t. because I know how honest you are.” – Ms. Pat
• “Sitcoms take years to get their legs, at least a few episodes. but right out of the gate, your show is very solid.” – Joe Rogan
• “I can just tell if you’re a good person. I can tell when shit is gonna happen. And when I met him, I said, he could do it.” – Ms. Pat
• “Hollywood is so scripted. They scared the step outside the box. They’re gonna give you the same old bullshit. We need a black writer. Well, that black writer might not understand what the fuck miss trying to do it.” – Ms. Pat
• “I wanted to do something where it’s like you could just be yourself. You know, because you look at all those old shows, you look at Sanford to sell a Red Fox or even the Richard Pryor show that he had for, like, 3 seconds. And it’s like, imagine if he was just allowed to be himself.” – Jordan E. Cooper