7-Oct-22
Joe Rogan Podcast #1879 – Sober October 4
This episode of the Joe Rogan podcast features a hilarious and insightful conversation with comedians Ari Shaffir, Tom Segura, and Bert Kreischer. They delve into a variety of topics, ranging from the effects of sobriety to the absurdity of human behavior. Provocative discussions include the aging of women, the value of penny stocks, and the power of obsession. Underlying themes explore the importance of self-improvement, the allure of the unexpected, and the enduring power of camaraderie.
Topics:
1. **The Effects of Sobriety:**
– Ari Shaffir shares his experience of a dramatic drop in blood pressure and inflammation after just five days of sobriety.
– Bert Kreischer reveals the surprising and intense effects of alcohol withdrawal, including vivid dreams and extreme gassiness.
– The group discusses the benefits of sobriety for physical and mental well-being, including improved sleep, increased energy, and a clearer mind.
– Ari and Joe share their experiences with the “punitive voice” that motivates them to work out after a night of drinking, highlighting the connection between alcohol and exercise.
2. **The Aging of Women and the Investment Analogy:**
– Bert Kreischer compares women’s value in the dating market to high-end IPOs that initially rise quickly but then decline with age.
– He contrasts this with men’s value, which he likens to penny stocks that can experience slow, consistent growth over time.
– The group discusses the cultural double standard surrounding aging, with women often facing more pressure to maintain youthfulness.
– The analogy highlights the complex social dynamics and societal expectations surrounding aging and attraction.
3. **Self-Help Gurus and Tony Robbins:**
– The group discusses the rise of self-help gurus and the prevalence of self-improvement advice in modern society.
– They reflect on the influence of Tony Robbins, a prominent self-help figure, and the impact his work has had on their lives.
– A humorous anecdote about Tony Robbins demanding that his servants sing to him highlights the potential for self-help gurus to become overly entitled.
– The discussion explores the power of motivation, the influence of self-improvement advice, and the potential pitfalls of self-help gurus.
4. **The Importance of Relaxation and Indulgence:**
– Bert Kreischer argues that relaxation is crucial for maintaining a healthy lifestyle, particularly after a long day.
– Joe Rogan emphasizes the importance of finding joy and pleasure in life, even in seemingly simple things like drinking a cocktail or enjoying a good meal.
– The discussion touches on the benefits of massage therapy and the positive effects of travel and leisure on overall well-being.
– This theme celebrates the value of taking time for oneself and appreciating the small things in life.
5. **The Ocean and its Primal Appeal:**
– The group shares their love for the ocean and its powerful, almost mystical presence.
– Bert Kreischer recounts his experience surfing in Hawaii, highlighting the primal connection he felt with the earth and the waves.
– They discuss the awe-inspiring power of the ocean and its ability to inspire both fear and wonder.
– The discussion explores the spiritual and emotional connection humans can feel with nature, specifically the ocean.
6. **The Value of “Obsession” and Focused Effort:**
– The group delves into the concept of obsession and how it can be a driving force for achieving greatness.
– Bert Kreischer discusses his passion for archery, highlighting the intense focus and concentration required for mastering the sport.
– They connect this to the idea of “moving meditation,” where the act of engaging in a skill becomes a form of mindfulness.
– The discussion explores the power of focused effort and the positive impact that obsessive pursuits can have on the mind and spirit.
7. **The Importance of Camaraderie and Support in Comedy:**
– The group discusses the importance of camaraderie and support within the comedy community, particularly for those who are coming up.
– Joe Rogan emphasizes the value of mentorship and the power of encouragement from established comics to those who are starting out.
– They share anecdotes about the supportive nature of their own comedy circles and the positive impact it has had on their careers.
– This theme highlights the power of collaboration, the value of mentorship, and the importance of community in achieving success.
8. **The Power of Live Comedy and the Unpredictability of the Audience:**
– The discussion turns to the unique dynamic of live comedy and the importance of engaging with the audience.
– The comedians share anecdotes about the unpredictability of crowds and the challenge of adapting to different venues and energy levels.
– They emphasize the importance of connecting with the audience, building rapport, and taking risks on stage.
– This theme explores the art of stand-up comedy, the importance of connecting with audiences, and the thrill of the unexpected in live performance.
9. **The Importance of “Stage Time” and Consistent Work Ethic:**
– Joe Rogan highlights the importance of consistent work ethic for comedians, emphasizing the need for regular stage time and practice.
– They discuss the value of performing in smaller clubs and developing new material, even if it’s not always successful.
– The group underscores the importance of constantly honing their craft and pushing themselves creatively.
– This theme celebrates the dedication required for success in comedy and the importance of embracing failure as a learning opportunity.
10. **Dave Chappelle’s Influence and the Power of “Events”:**
– The group praises Dave Chappelle’s talent and influence, highlighting his ability to create unforgettable events that resonate deeply with audiences.
– They discuss the unique energy and power of Chappelle’s live shows, emphasizing the impact his performances have on the comedy world.
– The group also discusses Chappelle’s commitment to supporting the comedy community through events and afterparties.
– This theme explores the influence of a legendary comedian and the power of creating experiences that transcend mere entertainment.
11. **The “Delusional” Side of Bert Kreischer:**
– Joe Rogan and Tom Segura playfully tease Bert Kreischer for his tendency to make grandiose claims about his physical abilities.
– They discuss Bert’s belief in his athleticism, even though he doesn’t regularly engage in rigorous training.
– The discussion highlights the humorous side of Bert’s personality and the difference between reality and perception.
– This theme embraces the idea of embracing one’s passions and believing in oneself, even if it’s sometimes delusional.
12. **The Use of Drugs and Alcohol as a Coping Mechanism:**
– The group discusses the use of drugs and alcohol as a coping mechanism, particularly for dealing with stress and anxiety.
– They acknowledge the allure of alcohol for creating a sense of euphoria and relaxation.
– Joe Rogan shares his experience with the “punitive voice” that motivates him to work out after drinking, suggesting a potential dependency on alcohol.
– This theme explores the complex relationship between substances and mental well-being, highlighting the potential for both escape and addiction.
13. **Ayahuasca and its Potential Benefits:**
– Ari Shaffir reveals his experience with Ayahuasca, a powerful psychedelic brew, and its impact on his mental state.
– He describes the experience as peaceful, transformative, and beneficial for reducing anxiety and paranoia.
– The discussion touches on the growing interest in psychedelic therapies and the potential for these substances to promote healing and self-discovery.
– This theme explores the potential of unconventional therapies and the search for alternative approaches to mental well-being.
14. **The Importance of “Treats” and Rewards in Maintaining Motivation:**
– Joe Rogan discusses the importance of “treats” and rewards for staying motivated and finding joy in life.
– He shares his preference for Kool Aid as a reward, highlighting the power of simple pleasures.
– The group discusses the value of incorporating small indulgences into a healthy lifestyle, acknowledging the need for balance.
– This theme emphasizes the importance of self-care and finding enjoyment in both achievement and relaxation.
15. **The Power of Music and Live Events:**
– The conversation turns to the power of music and live events, particularly the experience of seeing a favorite band perform.
– Joe Rogan shares his enthusiasm for Wilco and the emotional impact their concerts have had on him.
– They discuss the unique atmosphere of venues like Red Rocks Amphitheatre and the importance of creating memorable experiences for audiences.
– This theme explores the power of music to evoke strong emotions and create lasting memories.
16. **The Future of Comedy and the Importance of Collaboration:**
– The group discusses the future of comedy and the exciting talent emerging in the new generation of comedians.
– They highlight the importance of collaboration and support within the comedy community, particularly for those who are just starting out.
– The group emphasizes the value of shared experiences, mentorship, and the power of community in shaping the future of comedy.
– This theme celebrates the collaborative nature of comedy and the importance of fostering a supportive and inclusive environment for artists.
17. **The Importance of Self-Awareness and Embracing One’s Flaws:**
– The comedians touch on the importance of self-awareness and the ability to laugh at oneself.
– They share anecdotes about their own vulnerabilities and the importance of embracing imperfections.
– The discussion underscores the value of self-reflection and the ability to find humor in even the most difficult situations.
– This theme encourages self-acceptance and the importance of finding light even in darkness.
18. **The Power of “Triggering Events” and the Enduring Impact of Memories:**
– The group reflects on the power of memories and how certain events can have a lasting impact on their lives.
– They discuss the potential for “triggering events” to evoke strong emotions and memories, particularly in relation to drugs and alcohol.
– The discussion highlights the importance of personal experiences in shaping one’s perspective and the enduring power of memory.
– This theme explores the intricate relationship between past experiences, present emotions, and the shaping of one’s identity.
Memorable Quotes:
– “I feel phenomenal. My blood pressure dropped immediately into perfect blood pressure. Like, it it’s 140 over 90 if I’m partying hard. And then 2 days after drinking, it’s 120 over 70. 2 days. Yeah. And my blood pressure drops. I mean, my stomach my stomach starts making noises, like, really aggressive. Like Didn’t it inflamed at first? Yeah. It it’s super inflamed, and then it just goes to structure 1. Like, there’s that’s true. That’s pretty fucking good. It’s it’s a good impression of whatever. Maybe that’s another level. I was farting so aggressively the first day not drinking. I was at the store, and I was trying to have a conversation with someone about this golf, and I was had my ass in the main room towards the bathroom. And I was ripping farts that were, like, just coming, like, all this I think, My inflammation is so bad. It kind of blocks up my stomach. And I was gassy as fucking shit.” – Ari Shaffir, describing the dramatic effects of sobriety on his body.
– “Women are constantly threatened by youth though. Yeah. I mean, that’s that’s what they’re threatened by. Yeah. It’s the men are threatened by a bigger guy, like, you know, a stronger, bigger version of them. That’s the threat. And that’s a money thing too. Money too. That yeah. Money is a big one.” – Bert Kreischer, discussing the cultural double standard surrounding aging and attraction.
– “There is just clear data that is undeniable that alcohol has negative effects on you, and it is undeniable. And here’s all the data, you know, breaking down how it affects the brain and the organs of the system, and then he’s like, well, let me, like, what can, you know, can I drink? And and Andrew’s like, well, yes. Studies show. That if you wanna have 1 class Between drink and then the birthday, he goes, a week and birthday. A week. A week like that week.” – Joe Rogan, summarizing the findings of Dr. Andrew Huberman on the effects of alcohol consumption.
– “There’s something about shooting a target over and over again. It just clears your mind.” – Bert Kreischer, describing the meditative quality of archery.
– “I think it’s easy for you to go, how when I who don’t who gets me excited? Like, if you’re a fan Right. Of, like, Wilco. I’m a fan of Wilco. I saw Wilco at fucking these cock suckers. I saw them at Red Rocks, and I was mine, I was drunk, and the fuck, and I was crying. One of the songs, Bowling Crying. Cameron just puts camera on me. And I’m sobbing, crying, holding my wife, singing along. But that moment for me is beautiful because I love Wilco. Well, I and I got to see him at the most beautiful venue ever. I try to do that for money or from the audience. From the audience perspective. Yeah. If you’re a fan of birth, what do you want?” – Joe Rogan, discussing the importance of creating memorable experiences for audiences.