JRE #1980 – Michio Kaku

This podcast features theoretical physicist Michio Kaku discussing his latest book “Quantum Supremacy: How the Quantum Computer Revolution Will Change Everything.” It explores the exciting possibilities and potential pitfalls of quantum computing, spanning from its impact on various industries to its philosophical implications on the nature of reality and the existence of extraterrestrial life.

Provocative topics include:

• The race to dominate quantum computing: Exploring the global competition between nations and corporations like China, the United States, IBM, and Google.
• The potential obsolescence of current computers: Kaku predicts that traditional computers could become obsolete, comparing them to the abacus of the past.
• The CIA’s concerns about quantum computers: Kaku discusses the CIA’s worry about quantum computers’ ability to crack codes and compromise national security.
• The transformative potential of quantum computers in medicine: Kaku envisions a future where quantum computers revolutionize drug discovery, enable the regeneration of limbs, and even lead to immortality.
• The “God Equation” and the search for a theory of everything: Kaku explores his previous book, “The God Equation,” and the possibility of using quantum computers to solve the complex equations of string theory, potentially unlocking a unified understanding of the universe.
• The ethical implications of AI and quantum computing: Kaku delves into the potential dangers of AI’s ability to manipulate information, fabricate truths, and potentially surpass human intelligence, as well as the ethical dilemmas surrounding the development of sentient AI.
• The role of quantum computers in fact-checking: Kaku suggests that quantum computers could act as objective fact-checkers, distinguishing between truth and falsehood in the vast amount of information available on the internet.
• The potential for instantaneous translation and its impact on human interaction: Kaku discusses the possibility of breaking down language barriers through augmented reality and real-time translation.
• The possibility of aliens and their use of quantum computers: Kaku explores the idea that aliens, if they exist, might have already mastered quantum computing, allowing them to perform advanced calculations, such as navigating through wormholes.
• The concept of the multiverse and its connection to quantum computers: Kaku explains how quantum computers could potentially utilize the multiverse, as suggested by quantum physics, to perform calculations beyond the capabilities of traditional computers.
• The concept of a Type I civilization: Kaku discusses the idea of a planetary civilization, a Type I civilization, capable of harnessing the Earth’s energy and resources. He suggests that humanity is currently on the cusp of becoming a Type I civilization, potentially by the year 2100.
• The cultural evolution of a Type I civilization: Kaku highlights how the sharing of ideas, art forms, and culture through the internet is leading to a more globalized society, potentially contributing to the emergence of a Type I civilization.
• The potential dangers of AI and quantum computing in the hands of malicious actors: Kaku addresses the concerns about dictatorships and foreign governments using AI and quantum computers for propaganda, misinformation, and potentially destabilizing global relations.
• The race to develop quantum computing: Kaku describes the ongoing competition between various countries and companies, including China, IBM, Google, and Microsoft, to develop functional quantum computers.
• The possibility of a dual internet: Kaku discusses the idea of a dual internet system, one for governments and corporations using laser beams for security, and another for general public use.
• The ethical implications of advanced technologies and the need for regulations: Kaku emphasizes the importance of passing laws and regulations to ensure responsible development and use of AI and quantum computing.
• The potential of quantum computers to enhance human consciousness: Kaku contemplates whether quantum computing could lead to a more informed and evolved humanity, potentially transcending limitations of traditional thinking and perception.
• The potential for future technologies to surpass even quantum computing: Kaku discusses the possibility of future technologies, possibly based on subatomic particles, that could further expand human capabilities and understanding of the universe.
• The implications of simulation theory: Kaku explores the idea of a simulated reality, and discusses the limitations of creating a perfect simulation using current technology.
• The potential for human beings to create new universes: Kaku explores the possibility of reaching a point where human beings, or their descendants, could possess the power to create baby universes, potentially through harnessing the Planck energy.
• The inevitability of human evolution: Kaku discusses the ongoing drive for technological innovation, suggesting that human beings are destined to evolve, potentially merging with technology and transcending their biological limitations.
• The complex relationship between human biology and progress: Kaku contemplates the potential conflict between human emotions and desires and the pursuit of technological advancement, suggesting that a certain level of detachment from our biological selves might be necessary for achieving greater progress.
• The importance of scientific literacy and education: Kaku emphasizes the need for educating the public about the wonders of science and technology, inspiring future generations to pursue scientific endeavors and contribute to human progress.

5 Memorable Quotes

• “Silicon Valley could become a rust belt.” – Kaku warns about the potential obsolescence of the current digital computer technology in the face of the quantum computing revolution.
• “The greatest quantum computer is Mother Nature.” – Kaku highlights the incredible computational abilities of natural processes, such as photosynthesis, showcasing the scale and complexity of nature’s own quantum systems.
• “When we compute on atoms, these are atomic computers. Nothing more powerful than that.” – Kaku emphasizes the ultimate potential of quantum computers, utilizing the smallest possible building blocks of matter.
• “The meaning of the universe was 42.” – Kaku playfully refers to the famous “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy” novel, using it to illustrate the potential absurdity of seeking definitive answers about the universe through advanced calculations.
• “We’ve done the calculation and as I said, it could be a little bit dangerous. I’m not sure that the explosion doesn’t kill you in the process.” – Kaku acknowledges the potential risks associated with the pursuit of extreme technologies, such as creating baby universes, highlighting the need for caution and ethical considerations.