JRE #1996 – Andy Stumpf

This podcast features a lively conversation between Joe Rogan and Andy Stumpf, a retired Navy SEAL, wingsuit enthusiast, and podcast host. They delve into a variety of topics, ranging from the rigors of professional fighting and the risks of weight cutting to the fascinating world of UFOs and the potential for societal collapse. The conversation is peppered with Stumpf’s unique perspective and experiences, offering insights into the human psyche, the power of discipline, and the ever-evolving landscape of our modern world.

Major Topics

1. UFC Weigh-Ins and Weight Cutting:
   • Stumpf explains the ceremonial nature of UFC weigh-ins and the grueling process fighters endure to make weight.
   • He highlights the dangers of extreme weight cutting, especially in the 24 hours before a fight, and how it can impact a fighter’s performance and even lead to death.
   • Stumpf expresses his admiration for fighters who manage their weight intelligently and argues for a change in the weigh-in system to prioritize fighter safety.
   • He acknowledges the discipline required for weight cutting but also highlights the potential long-term health consequences for fighters.
2. The Spectrum of Jiu-Jitsu Proficiency:
   • Stumpf emphasizes the vast differences in skill levels among Jiu-Jitsu black belts, comparing it to the distinction between scratch golfers and professional golfers.
   • He describes the humbling experience of rolling with elite Jiu-Jitsu practitioners like Marcelo Garcia and Hickson Gracie, who make even experienced black belts feel like beginners.
   • He argues that Jiu-Jitsu remains a viable and effective martial art in the UFC, despite the recent Crohn Gracie fight, citing examples like Paul Craig, who utilizes Jiu-Jitsu to great effect in the cage.
   • He acknowledges the importance of training and experience, emphasizing that a fighter’s success in the UFC depends on a well-rounded skillset that includes striking, takedowns, and grappling.
3. The Dynamics of UFC Fight Commentary:
   • Stumpf discusses the unique perspective of calling fights from cage side, highlighting the ability to hear the sounds of strikes, the breathing of fighters, and the strategy of cornermen.
   • He praises the intimacy and intensity of the Apex fight venue, where the sounds of the fight are amplified and the audience is close to the action.
   • He reflects on the increasing level of talent in the UFC, noting that every division seems to have a new, unknown fighter emerging with a dominant record.
   • He acknowledges the physical and mental toll that professional fighting takes on fighters, emphasizing the importance of respect for their dedication and resilience.
4. The Unpredictability of the Ocean:
   • Stumpf shares his fascination with leopard seals, highlighting their predatory nature and their potential for danger, particularly for those venturing into the ocean.
   • He discusses the inherent danger of the ocean, comparing it to a “monster soup” where everything is designed to harm humans, from sharks to venomous creatures.
   • He expresses his apprehension towards kayaking and stand-up paddleboarding due to the risk of shark encounters.
   • He references the incident of a kayaker being swallowed by a whale, illustrating the unpredictable and sometimes terrifying nature of the ocean.
5. The Potential for Societal Collapse:
   • Stumpf expresses his concern about the potential for societal collapse, drawing parallels to the situation in San Francisco and Portland, where he believes there is a growing sense of chaos and instability.
   • He references the influx of migrants into New York City and the mayor’s request for residents to house them, highlighting what he sees as a flawed and unsustainable policy.
   • He raises concerns about the potential for terrorism and radicalization, both from individuals crossing borders and those who are radicalized online.
   • He questions the effectiveness of border security and the potential for motivated individuals to bypass it, suggesting that the current system may be more porous than many people realize.
6. The UFO Disclosure and its Implications:
   • Stumpf discusses the recent UFO disclosure made by David Grush, a former intelligence officer who claims the government has been hiding evidence of alien spacecraft.
   • He explores the potential for a government cover-up, suggesting that the disclosure could be a “scyop” designed to distract from other issues or to conceal advanced technology.
   • He highlights the fact that multiple credible individuals, including military pilots, have come forward with accounts of unexplained aerial phenomena, suggesting the possibility of a broader, hidden reality.
   • He concludes that the universe is likely teeming with life, and that it’s improbable that humans are the only intelligent species in existence. The potential for alien contact, he suggests, is not something to fear but something to be fascinated by.
7. The Manipulation of Information:
   • Stumpf discusses the growing awareness of how information is being manipulated through social media, search engine algorithms, and mainstream media outlets.
   • He highlights the use of bots to spread propaganda and influence public opinion, citing an FBI analyst’s estimate that over 80% of Twitter accounts may be bots.
   • He references Robert Epstein’s research on the impact of curated search engine results on elections, suggesting that algorithms can be used to shape public perceptions and sway voters.
   • He questions the objectivity of news organizations and their potential bias, suggesting that a large amount of money is involved in maintaining a specific narrative and that many people are increasingly aware of this.
8. The Pandemic and its Consequences:
   • Stumpf reflects on the COVID-19 pandemic and how it has impacted society, specifically highlighting the government’s handling of the pandemic, the promotion of vaccines, and the suppression of dissenting voices.
   • He shares his concerns about the potential for vaccine-related injuries and the lack of transparency surrounding the efficacy and safety of the vaccines.
   • He emphasizes the importance of taking control of one’s own health, prioritizing diet, exercise, and vitamin supplementation over relying on external sources for solutions.
   • He expresses his frustration with the government’s approach to the pandemic and how it has eroded public trust, making it difficult to believe any future official messages or recommendations.
9. The Importance of Discipline and Self-Improvement:
   • Stumpf emphasizes the importance of developing discipline early in life, drawing parallels to the demanding training regimens of professional athletes and special operations personnel.
   • He argues that discipline is a valuable life skill that transcends physical endeavors, applying to everything from business decisions to personal relationships.
   • He emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility and taking ownership of one’s life, rather than relying on external forces or institutions for guidance or support.
   • He acknowledges that the world is increasingly complex and that it’s difficult to navigate without a strong sense of self-reliance and discipline.
10. The Dark Side of Human Nature:
    • Stumpf discusses the horrifying reality of child sex trafficking and the difficulty of combatting it, highlighting the challenges faced by law enforcement agencies and the potential for corruption within those systems.
    • He expresses his concerns about the prevalence of pedophilia and the ability of individuals to evade detection, suggesting that the issue may be more widespread than many people realize.
    • He shares stories of individuals working in the ICAC (Internet Crimes Against Children) and how they are exposed to the most disturbing content, raising questions about the psychological toll it can take.
    • He acknowledges the complex and multifaceted nature of human behavior, highlighting the potential for both incredible good and horrific evil within our species.
11. The Allure and Perils of Online Platforms:
    • Stumpf discusses the impact of social media on the human psyche, particularly the potential for addiction, the creation of echo chambers, and the amplification of negativity and outrage.
    • He acknowledges the potential for social media to connect people and share information, but also highlights the dangers of manipulation and misinformation, which can distort reality and lead to unhealthy behaviors.
    • He emphasizes the importance of discerning between real people and bots, particularly on platforms like Twitter, and the growing sophistication of AI-powered propaganda.
    • He encourages individuals to approach online platforms with a critical eye, to diversify their sources of information, and to avoid falling into the trap of echo chambers and online outrage culture.
12. The Importance of Healthy Habits:
    • Stumpf champions a healthy lifestyle, emphasizing the importance of a balanced diet, regular exercise, and vitamin supplementation.
    • He argues that these habits are not just about physical fitness but also about mental well-being, resilience, and overall health.
    • He challenges the notion that obesity is a social issue rather than a health issue, arguing that individuals have the power to change their habits and improve their health through discipline and effort.
    • He discusses the rise of weight loss drugs like Ozempic and the potential benefits and drawbacks of relying on these medications, emphasizing the importance of a holistic approach to health that includes lifestyle changes.
13. The Power of Conversation and Open Dialogue:
    • Stumpf emphasizes the importance of open dialogue and critical thinking in navigating a world filled with misinformation and complex issues.
    • He encourages listeners to engage in conversations with diverse perspectives and to be skeptical of information that seems too good to be true or that is presented without evidence.
    • He believes that open and honest conversations can help to challenge dominant narratives, expose corruption, and empower individuals to take control of their lives.
    • He acknowledges that change can be slow and difficult, but that it is possible through ongoing dialogue, critical thinking, and a willingness to challenge the status quo.

Memorable Quotes

• “It’s funny to me how many people who are walking around absolute fucking murders that are the kindest people on planet earth.” – Stumpf highlights the contrast between a fighter’s violent profession and their often kind and gentle nature outside the cage.
• “You can’t say Jiu-Jitsu doesn’t work because how’s Charles Oliveira submitting everyone?” – Stumpf defends the effectiveness of Jiu-Jitsu in the UFC, referencing the submission skills of the current champion, Charles Oliveira.
• “Everything in it is there to fuck you up.” – Stumpf describes the ocean as a dangerous environment, emphasizing the potential for harm from various creatures.
• “If the whole country goes the way San Francisco and Portland have gone, we’re fucked.” – Stumpf expresses his concern about the growing social and political instability in the US, fearing a societal collapse if the situation worsens.
• “It’s improbable that we’re alone, and it’s improbable that if we’re not alone, that no one would be interested in us.” – Stumpf suggests that it’s likely that humans are not the only intelligent species in the universe and that alien civilizations may be observing us.