JRE #393 - Tom Segura

9/16/2013

#393 – Tom Segura

This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience features comedian Tom Segura, who discusses a variety of topics, ranging from personal experiences to societal observations, often with a humorous and thought-provoking edge. Controversial topics like gay neighborhoods, pedophilia, and the Iraq War are addressed, while underlying themes explore the complexities of human behavior, the dangers of unchecked power, and the importance of critical thinking.

1. Gay Neighborhoods:

Joe Rogan and Tom Segura discuss the distinct character of gay neighborhoods, particularly West Hollywood, which they perceive as having a unique and sometimes aggressive atmosphere.
They acknowledge the changing landscape of the gay community, with Columbus, Ohio, becoming a growing hub for LGBTQ+ individuals.
They contrast the concept of gay neighborhoods with lesbian communities, noting that lesbians seem to be less inclined to form distinct geographic clusters.
The discussion touches upon the historical significance of San Francisco as a haven for the gay community, comparing it to the rise of West Hollywood as a prominent gay center.

2. The Cost of Living in Los Angeles:

The conversation dives into the exorbitant cost of real estate in Los Angeles, highlighting the immense financial pressure on residents.
Segura shares an anecdote about his neighbor’s house selling for $850,000, emphasizing the disparity between his own financial goals and the market realities.
They discuss the extreme lengths some individuals go to acquire property, such as Arnold Schwarzenegger’s decision to purchase and demolish a neighboring house to expand his yard.
The discussion underscores the challenges faced by those seeking to achieve financial stability in a rapidly appreciating real estate market.

3. The Impact of Fukushima:

Rogan expresses concern about the ongoing threat of radiation at Fukushima, citing the potential for further earthquakes and tsunamis.
They discuss the complex and challenging efforts to contain the radioactive water, highlighting the unprecedented nature of the spill.
The conversation delves into the long-term consequences of the incident, including potential contamination of seafood and the creation of a permanently uninhabitable area.
Rogan argues that the situation highlights the inherent risks of nuclear power, raising concerns about the long-term consequences of using this technology.

4. The Evolution of Language:

Segura shares his experiences learning Spanish, highlighting the significant differences between languages and the challenges of translating between them.
They discuss the fascinating phenomenon of language extinction, citing the case of a man who was the last speaker of a specific language.
The conversation touches upon the importance of preserving languages and the cultural value of diverse linguistic traditions.
They acknowledge the impact of language on thought processes, noting that speakers of different languages often approach ideas and concepts in distinct ways.

5. The Eichmann Capture:

Segura and Rogan discuss the daring capture of Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann from Argentina, highlighting the lengths to which Israel was willing to go to bring him to justice.
They explore the complexities of international diplomacy and the tension between legal processes and extrajudicial action in such cases.
They reference the incident as an example of Israel’s firm stance and commitment to pursuing justice for victims of the Holocaust.
The conversation touches upon the ethical dilemmas surrounding the use of force in bringing alleged criminals to justice.

6. The Laptop Shooting Incident:

Segura and Rogan discuss a viral video of a father shooting his daughter’s laptop after she complained about chores on Facebook.
They condemn the father’s actions, highlighting the inappropriate use of violence and the potential for long-term harm to the daughter’s emotional well-being.
They discuss the implications of public shaming and the impact of witnessing such acts of aggression on a child’s perception of acceptable behavior.
The conversation touches upon the responsibilities of parents in guiding their children through adolescence and the dangers of resorting to extreme measures.

7. The Depiction of Poverty in “Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia”:

Segura and Rogan discuss the documentary “Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia,” which depicts the lives of individuals struggling with poverty and drug addiction in rural West Virginia.
They acknowledge the complexity of the issues portrayed in the documentary, acknowledging both the potential for viewers to find it depressing and the possibility of viewing it as a fascinating anthropological study.
They highlight the extreme circumstances faced by the individuals featured in the documentary, including their reliance on selling drugs and engaging in dangerous behavior.
The conversation touches upon the importance of empathy and understanding when confronting societal issues like poverty and addiction, while recognizing the need for critical analysis and discussion.

8. The Case of Stevie:

They discuss the documentary “Stevie,” which follows the life of an individual struggling with mental disabilities and criminal charges.
They grapple with the ethical challenges of portraying individuals with disabilities, questioning whether it is appropriate to find humor in their struggles.
They discuss the complexities of judging individuals with disabilities, highlighting the potential for biases and the need for understanding.
The conversation touches upon the importance of compassion and empathy when dealing with individuals facing significant challenges.

9. The Controversy Surrounding Docklands:

Segura and Rogan discuss a controversial quote by British comedian Docklands, who suggested that mild pedophilia in the 1950s may not have caused lasting harm to victims.
They condemn Docklands’s statement, highlighting the potential harm and lasting impact of child sexual abuse.
They discuss the complexities of judging past actions by today’s standards, acknowledging the evolution of societal norms and understanding.
The conversation touches upon the sensitive nature of pedophilia, emphasizing the need for careful consideration and respect for victims.

10. Light-Induced Sneezing:

Rogan shares his experience with light-induced sneezing, a phenomenon that causes some individuals to sneeze when exposed to bright light.
They discuss the prevalence of this condition and the lack of awareness among some people.
The conversation touches upon the intriguing aspects of human biology and the various ways in which individuals experience the world differently.
They explore the potential for further research into this intriguing and understudied phenomenon.

11. The History of Pedophilia:

Segura and Rogan discuss the historical prevalence of pedophilia across various cultures, from ancient Greece to Rome and Japan.
They acknowledge that societal norms regarding sexuality have evolved significantly over time.
The conversation touches upon the complex and often taboo topic of historical sexual practices.
They explore the need to understand the context in which such behavior occurred, while recognizing its problematic nature in today’s society.

12. The Brutal History of Vlad the Impaler:

Segura and Rogan discuss the brutal reign of Vlad the Impaler, a historical figure known for his penchant for impaling his enemies and opponents.
They detail the gruesome methods of impalement and the prolonged suffering it inflicted on victims.
The conversation touches upon the historical context of violence and the brutality of medieval warfare.
They acknowledge the contrast between the historical acceptance of such practices and the modern-day revulsion at such acts of cruelty.

13. The Iraq War and the Media:

Rogan criticizes the mainstream media’s portrayal of the Iraq War, alleging that they suppress information about the casualties and consequences of the conflict.
They discuss the practice of banning photographs of coffins returning from war zones, highlighting the efforts to control public perception.
The conversation delves into the complexities of war, questioning the justifications for military action and the ethical considerations involved in the loss of innocent lives.
They express concern about the manipulation of information and the need for transparency in reporting on major events.

14. The Obama Presidency and Approval Ratings:

Segura and Rogan discuss Barack Obama’s approval ratings, comparing them to those of previous presidents.
They explore the factors that contribute to fluctuations in presidential approval ratings, including partisan politics and public perceptions of policy decisions.
They discuss the challenges of governing a complex and divided nation, highlighting the pressures faced by presidents in making difficult choices.
The conversation touches upon the role of the media in shaping public opinion and the complexities of evaluating presidential performance.

15. The Financial Crisis of 2008:

Segura and Rogan discuss the financial crisis of 2008, criticizing the actions of Wall Street executives and the role of government in bailing out banks.
They explore the intricacies of the financial system and the complexities of derivatives, short sales, and other financial instruments.
They raise questions about the ethical implications of a system that allows for excessive risk-taking and rewards those who contribute to economic instability.
The conversation touches upon the need for greater transparency and regulation in the financial industry to prevent future crises.

16. The Mayweather-Bradley Fight and Controversial Scoring:

Segura and Rogan discuss the controversial scoring of the Floyd Mayweather-Tim Bradley fight, in which a judge awarded the fight to Bradley despite the general consensus that Mayweather had won.
They speculate about the potential for corruption or incompetence in the scoring process, questioning the judge’s professional judgment.
They highlight the importance of accurate scoring in boxing and the need for accountability among judges.
The conversation touches upon the subjective nature of judging in sports and the potential for bias to influence outcomes.

17. The Prevalence of Drug Dealing:

Segura and Rogan discuss the prevalence of drug dealing, sharing anecdotes about their personal experiences and observations.
They discuss the sophistication of drug trafficking operations, including the use of hidden compartments in vehicles to transport drugs.
The conversation touches upon the dangers of drug trafficking and the consequences of involvement in this illegal activity.
They explore the complexities of law enforcement and the challenges of combating drug trafficking.

18. The “Emotional Support Animal” Phenomenon:

Segura and Rogan discuss the growing trend of individuals bringing their dogs to restaurants, claiming they are emotional support animals.
They criticize this practice, arguing that it undermines public health standards and disrespects the needs of other diners.
They discuss the potential dangers of bringing dogs into public spaces, particularly for people with allergies or sensitivities.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of accommodating people with disabilities while balancing public health concerns and the rights of other individuals.

19. The “Wild” Nature of Pit Bulls:

Segura and Rogan discuss the nature of pit bulls, acknowledging their potential for aggression and the challenges of training them.
They discuss the historical breeding of pit bulls for fighting and hunting, explaining the origins of their strong prey drive and aggression.
They acknowledge the importance of responsible ownership and the need for proper training to mitigate the risks associated with pit bulls.
The conversation touches upon the ethical considerations involved in owning potentially dangerous breeds and the responsibilities of pet owners to ensure the safety of their animals and the public.

20. The Dangers of Restaurant Workers:

Segura and Rogan discuss the potential for unsanitary practices in restaurants, sharing anecdotes about their experiences as both customers and workers in the food service industry.
They highlight the importance of being mindful of the potential for contamination and the need for both customers and workers to maintain high standards of hygiene.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of the food service industry, including the pressures faced by workers and the importance of consumer awareness.
They explore the potential for both deliberate and unintentional contamination, emphasizing the need for both customers and workers to take precautions.

21. The Case of Paul Charles Doza:

Segura and Rogan discuss the case of Paul Charles Doza, an Australian man who gained notoriety for dining at expensive restaurants and then refusing to pay the bill.
They explore the motivations behind Doza’s behavior, speculating about the potential for mental illness or a desire to exploit the kindness of others.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of human behavior, highlighting the spectrum of motivations that can drive individuals to engage in unusual or even criminal activities.
They discuss the social consequences of Doza’s actions, including the impact on restaurant owners and staff.

22. The Genius of Nikola Tesla:

Segura and Rogan discuss the life and accomplishments of Nikola Tesla, a brilliant inventor and engineer.
They highlight Tesla’s groundbreaking inventions, including alternating current and remote control technology.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of genius and the often eccentric personalities of those who achieve extraordinary breakthroughs.
They explore the impact of Tesla’s innovations on modern society, acknowledging his significant contributions to scientific and technological advancement.

23. The Importance of Diversity in Society:

Segura and Rogan discuss the importance of diversity in society, acknowledging the wide range of personalities and behaviors that contribute to the richness of human experience.
They explore the role of different personality types in driving societal progress, highlighting the value of both ambition and laziness, as well as a spectrum of other traits.
The conversation touches upon the evolutionary significance of diversity, arguing that it fosters adaptability and resilience.
They suggest that the human drive for materialism can be viewed as a form of displaying dominance and status within a social hierarchy.

24. The “Get Your Hands Off My Penis” Video:

Segura and Rogan discuss a viral video of an Australian man who refuses to pay for a meal and then yells “Get your hands off my penis” at police officers.
They find the video humorous, acknowledging the absurdity of the situation and the man’s apparent disregard for social norms.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of mental illness and the difficulty of understanding the motivations of individuals who exhibit unusual behavior.
They discuss the social consequences of such incidents, highlighting the impact on the individuals involved and the potential for public embarrassment.

25. The Prevalence of “Crazy” People:

Segura and Rogan discuss the prevalence of “crazy” people in society, sharing anecdotes about their own encounters with individuals who exhibit unusual or eccentric behavior.
They acknowledge the difficulty of defining “crazy” and the complexities of mental illness.
The conversation touches upon the need for compassion and understanding when interacting with those who may be struggling with mental health issues.
They discuss the importance of recognizing that individuals may have diverse perspectives and experiences that shape their behavior.

26. The Significance of “The World’s End”:

Segura and Rogan discuss the film “The World’s End,” praising its humor and creative storytelling.
They highlight the unique aspects of the film, noting its transition between genres and its unexpected twists and turns.
The conversation touches upon the importance of entertainment and the power of storytelling to evoke laughter and thought.
They acknowledge the collaborative efforts of the film’s creators, recognizing the contributions of Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright.

27. The Eccentricity of Chess Masters:

Segura and Rogan discuss the often eccentric personalities of chess masters, citing Bobby Fischer as an example.
They highlight Fischer’s exceptional intelligence and his controversial views on race and religion.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of genius and the potential for extreme focus to lead to unusual behavior.
They discuss the challenges of reconciling extraordinary talent with personal eccentricities.

28. The Phenomenon of Simultaneous Chess Games:

Segura and Rogan discuss the remarkable ability of chess masters to play multiple games simultaneously.
They explore the mental processes involved in this feat, speculating about the ability of chess masters to visualize and calculate multiple scenarios at once.
The conversation touches upon the extraordinary cognitive abilities of those who achieve mastery in complex domains.
They discuss the potential for such skills to be applied in other areas of life, highlighting the value of mental agility and strategic thinking.

29. The Relationship Between Intelligence and Sexuality:

Segura and Rogan speculate about the relationship between intelligence and sexual desire, suggesting that individuals with extraordinary intellect may have a reduced interest in pursuing romantic relationships.
They discuss the potential for extreme focus and dedication to a specific field to consume an individual’s time and energy.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of human relationships and the varied motivations that drive individuals in their pursuit of love and intimacy.
They acknowledge that intelligence may not always translate to social or romantic success, highlighting the importance of balance and personal fulfillment.

30. The “Get Your Hands Off My Penis” Video:

Segura and Rogan discuss a viral video of an Australian man who refuses to pay for a meal and then yells “Get your hands off my penis” at police officers.
They find the video humorous, acknowledging the absurdity of the situation and the man’s apparent disregard for social norms.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of mental illness and the difficulty of understanding the motivations of individuals who exhibit unusual behavior.
They discuss the social consequences of such incidents, highlighting the impact on the individuals involved and the potential for public embarrassment.

31. The Prevalence of “Crazy” People:

Segura and Rogan discuss the prevalence of “crazy” people in society, sharing anecdotes about their own encounters with individuals who exhibit unusual or eccentric behavior.
They acknowledge the difficulty of defining “crazy” and the complexities of mental illness.
The conversation touches upon the need for compassion and understanding when interacting with those who may be struggling with mental health issues.
They discuss the importance of recognizing that individuals may have diverse perspectives and experiences that shape their behavior.

32. The Significance of “The World’s End”:

Segura and Rogan discuss the film “The World’s End,” praising its humor and creative storytelling.
They highlight the unique aspects of the film, noting its transition between genres and its unexpected twists and turns.
The conversation touches upon the importance of entertainment and the power of storytelling to evoke laughter and thought.
They acknowledge the collaborative efforts of the film’s creators, recognizing the contributions of Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright.

33. The Eccentricity of Chess Masters:

Segura and Rogan discuss the often eccentric personalities of chess masters, citing Bobby Fischer as an example.
They highlight Fischer’s exceptional intelligence and his controversial views on race and religion.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of genius and the potential for extreme focus to lead to unusual behavior.
They discuss the challenges of reconciling extraordinary talent with personal eccentricities.

34. The Phenomenon of Simultaneous Chess Games:

Segura and Rogan discuss the remarkable ability of chess masters to play multiple games simultaneously.
They explore the mental processes involved in this feat, speculating about the ability of chess masters to visualize and calculate multiple scenarios at once.
The conversation touches upon the extraordinary cognitive abilities of those who achieve mastery in complex domains.
They discuss the potential for such skills to be applied in other areas of life, highlighting the value of mental agility and strategic thinking.

35. The Relationship Between Intelligence and Sexuality:

Segura and Rogan speculate about the relationship between intelligence and sexual desire, suggesting that individuals with extraordinary intellect may have a reduced interest in pursuing romantic relationships.
They discuss the potential for extreme focus and dedication to a specific field to consume an individual’s time and energy.
The conversation touches upon the complexities of human relationships and the varied motivations that drive individuals in their pursuit of love and intimacy.
They acknowledge that intelligence may not always translate to social or romantic success, highlighting the importance of balance and personal fulfillment.

Memorable Quotes:

“And if you go anywhere near there, be prepared to suck a dick.”
“There’s only way one way to find out, let’s go to go go go, like, be Joe rogan questions everything for the gate gate parade.”
“I love her. She’s a very nice person. She’s one of the reasons why I moved to Colorado in the first place.”
“You’re not being an alarmist about nuclear power. It does work most of the time, but people have only been alive. for how long?”
“We were fucking throwing spears and, you know, wooden sticks that we sharpened at the end — Yeah. — how we didn’t know how to use fire yet.”

JRE #393 – Tom Segura