JRE #643 – “Big” Jay Oakerson

5/4/2015




This podcast features Big Jay Oakerson, a stand-up comedian, known for his provocative humor and outspoken nature. It delves into a diverse range of topics, from social commentary and the entertainment industry to personal experiences and controversial views on gender and identity. Underlying themes explore the nature of humor, the dynamics of social change, and the impact of personal beliefs on individual choices.

1. Baltimore Protests and the Nature of Social Change:

  • Oakerson expresses skepticism about the violent nature of certain protests, particularly targeting businesses owned by black people.
  • He questions the connection between these actions and the underlying issues of police brutality and racial injustice.
  • The discussion delves into the effectiveness of protest tactics and whether they contribute to real change.
  • Oakerson challenges the notion of “cannibalization” as a primary motivation for destruction, emphasizing the complexities of social unrest.

2. Hollywood’s Portrayal of Real-Life Stories:

  • Oakerson criticizes Hollywood’s tendency to sensationalize and distort real-life stories, particularly those involving real people.
  • He uses the example of the movie “Foxcatcher,” about the John Dupont case, to illustrate how Hollywood adds fictional elements and changes timelines.
  • The discussion highlights the impact of these distortions on public perception and the ethical implications of altering true events.
  • Oakerson emphasizes the importance of historical accuracy and the responsibility of filmmakers to portray real-life stories with integrity.

3. The Evolution of MMA and Boxing:

  • Oakerson discusses the changing rules and dynamics of MMA and boxing, highlighting the evolution of both sports over time.
  • He analyzes the impact of rule changes, such as the prohibition of certain techniques, on the overall strategy and excitement of the fights.
  • The discussion explores the differences in fighting styles and the emergence of new fighting techniques in MMA, contrasting it with the more traditional boxing style.
  • Oakerson shares his personal experiences with both sports, highlighting his appreciation for the “sweet science” of boxing and the visceral excitement of MMA.

4. The Rise of UFC and Its Appeal to Women:

  • Oakerson explores the growing popularity of UFC among women, attributing it to the gladiatorial nature of the sport and its appeal to a primal instinct.
  • He discusses the “mochismo” associated with UFC and its ability to attract women seeking a sense of power and excitement.
  • Ronda Rousey is highlighted as a prime example of a female fighter who has captured the public imagination and broken barriers within the sport.
  • The discussion delves into the complexities of female athleticism, the impact of steroid use, and the societal perceptions of women in combat sports.

5. The Controversy Surrounding Bruce Jenner’s Transition:

  • Oakerson addresses the controversy surrounding Bruce Jenner’s transition and the backlash against those making jokes about it.
  • He argues that humor is a valuable tool for addressing complex issues and that Jenner’s transition presents a unique and potentially humorous situation.
  • The discussion delves into the nuances of humor, sensitivity, and the changing social norms surrounding gender identity.
  • Oakerson emphasizes his own acceptance of personal choices and his belief that individuals should be free to express themselves without fear of judgment.

6. The Nature of Mental Illness and Gender Identity:

  • Oakerson explores the complexities of mental illness and its potential role in gender identity.
  • He discusses the spectrum of experiences related to transgender identity, ranging from those who feel they were born in the wrong body to those who might be seeking a change for other reasons.
  • The discussion examines the effectiveness of surgical interventions in addressing mental health issues and the ethical considerations surrounding such procedures.
  • Oakerson emphasizes his own acceptance of individual choices and his belief that individuals should be free to pursue their own path, while acknowledging the complexities of understanding gender dysphoria.

7. The Spread of Rumors and Urban Legends:

  • Oakerson discusses the enduring power of rumors and urban legends, particularly in the pre-internet era.
  • He uses the example of the Richard Gere gerbil rumor to illustrate how quickly and widely such stories can spread.
  • The discussion highlights the role of social media in amplifying rumors and the challenge of discerning truth from fiction in a digital age.
  • Oakerson reflects on the human fascination with sensational stories and the ease with which misinformation can take root.

8. The Dark Side of Scientology and Other Cults:

  • Oakerson discusses the dangers of cults and manipulative groups, highlighting the tactics they use to recruit vulnerable individuals.
  • He explores the similarities in recruitment strategies across various groups, such as Scientology, prostitution, and white supremacist organizations.
  • The discussion delves into the psychology of cults, the allure of belonging, and the power of manipulation.
  • Oakerson emphasizes the importance of critical thinking and the need to be vigilant against manipulative groups that prey on vulnerable individuals.

9. The Role of Free Speech and Offensive Content:

  • Oakerson addresses the ongoing debate surrounding free speech and offensive content, specifically related to the “Draw Muhammad” controversy.
  • He questions the rationale behind violence in response to artistic expression and argues that the act of drawing itself should not be considered provocation.
  • The discussion explores the limits of free speech and the potential consequences of censoring artistic expression.
  • Oakerson emphasizes the importance of promoting tolerance and understanding, while also defending the right to express oneself freely.

10. The Changing Landscape of Comedy:

  • Oakerson discusses the evolving landscape of comedy and the increasing sensitivity surrounding certain topics.
  • He explores the potential consequences of limiting humor, arguing that it can stifle creativity and prevent comedians from addressing important issues.
  • The discussion highlights the importance of humor as a tool for social commentary and its ability to challenge societal norms.
  • Oakerson emphasizes the need for balance between humor and sensitivity, while also advocating for the freedom to push boundaries in the pursuit of laughter.

11. The Physicality of Comedy:

  • Oakerson explores the physicality of comedy, highlighting how movement and gestures can enhance comedic delivery.
  • He uses Richard Pryor as an example of a comedian who masterfully incorporated physicality into his act, using body language and facial expressions to amplify his humor.
  • The discussion examines the impact of physical comedy on audience engagement and the various ways comedians use their bodies to create laughter.
  • Oakerson reflects on the evolution of comedic styles and the ongoing debate surrounding the importance of physicality in stand-up comedy.

12. The Power of Yoga and Body Control:

  • Oakerson discusses the benefits of yoga and its ability to improve body control, flexibility, and overall health.
  • He highlights the importance of training the body as a unified unit, emphasizing the limitations of traditional weightlifting in developing full body control.
  • The discussion explores the specific benefits of yoga for back health and its ability to decompress muscles and improve posture.
  • Oakerson shares his own experiences with yoga and the importance of incorporating it into a balanced fitness routine.

13. The Risks and Rewards of Extreme Sports:

  • Oakerson discusses the risks and rewards of extreme sports, such as free climbing and parkour.
  • He expresses his own fear of heights and his admiration for those who push physical limits.
  • The discussion explores the psychology of those who engage in extreme sports, the adrenaline rush, and the desire to conquer fear.
  • Oakerson acknowledges the potential dangers of such activities while also appreciating the skill and athleticism involved.

14. The Culture of Strippers and the Comic Lifestyle:

  • Oakerson discusses the similarities between the lives of strippers and comedians, highlighting their shared experiences of chaotic schedules, late nights, and an acceptance of unconventional behavior.
  • He analyzes the social pressures faced by both groups, the challenges of balancing personal lives with demanding careers, and the unique sense of community found in both worlds.
  • The discussion explores the role of humor and debauchery in coping with a demanding and often unpredictable lifestyle.
  • Oakerson reflects on his own experiences navigating these two worlds, the challenges of maintaining balance, and the lessons learned along the way.

15. The Impact of Technology on Society:

  • Oakerson discusses the impact of technology on society, highlighting the transformative potential of innovations such as electric cars and solar power batteries.
  • He explores the potential for technology to address issues like climate change and energy dependence.
  • The discussion delves into the ethical considerations surrounding technological advancements and their potential impact on the future of humanity.
  • Oakerson expresses his enthusiasm for technological progress while also acknowledging the challenges and uncertainties associated with rapid innovation.

16. The Importance of Personal Expression and Acceptance:

  • Throughout the podcast, Oakerson consistently emphasizes the importance of personal expression and acceptance of diverse lifestyles.
  • He advocates for a tolerant society where individuals are free to make their own choices without fear of judgment.
  • The discussion explores the complexities of social change, the evolving definition of “normal,” and the need for understanding and compassion in a diverse world.
  • Oakerson’s own views on controversial topics demonstrate his commitment to open dialogue and a willingness to challenge societal norms.

5 Memorable Quotes:

  • “They did it in Ferguson to businesses that were owned by black people. I mean, there was there was some instances of people burning down business that had absolutely nothing to do with any of the the pro police, you know, group.”
  • “You get you’re gonna get me airhead in my helicopter? Yeah. They’re hanging out. to do a pulse on a helicopter. I and each other sweating. It was so fucker.”
  • “I don’t even think any kind of sport actually. Like, you know, even someone who hates the Yankees. Like, if you meet a rod, you’re probably still, like, Mister Rodriguez.”
  • “I think it’s just a deviation. I think it’s a deviation like some people are tall. I think it’s a I don’t think it’s a negative. You know, it just doesn’t seem to be negative.”
  • “It’s just way too much stress and way too much pressure. But my my point is, How weird is it that some stories catch and some stories don’t?”


 

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