JRE #867 - Joey Diaz

10/31/2016

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This episode features a hilarious and insightful conversation between Joe Rogan and Joey Diaz, covering a wide range of topics, including comedy, Jiu-Jitsu, sports, and personal anecdotes. Provocative and controversial subjects are explored, alongside the underlying themes of brotherhood, the relentless pursuit of excellence, and the complexities of human behavior.

1. Gabriel Iglesias’s Generosity

Gabriel Iglesias, a beloved comedian, is known for his immense generosity to other comedians, particularly those starting out.
He goes above and beyond to help them, even paying for entire Comedy Central showcase episodes to give them opportunities.
Iglesias emphasizes the importance of helping fellow comedians, both for their growth and as a way to learn from them.
Diaz and Rogan acknowledge the rarity of such kindness in the industry.

2. The Importance of Hustle

Diaz emphasizes the importance of maintaining a “hungry” attitude in the entertainment industry, stressing the value of constant creation and growth.
He notes the dynamic and competitive nature of the comedy world, where everyone is working hard to push their careers forward.
The podcast serves as an example of this hustle, with Rogan and Diaz constantly creating content.
The discussion underscores the importance of continuous effort and self-improvement in any field.

3. Ari Shafir’s “Don’t Give a Fuck” Scale

Ari Shafir is presented as the ultimate embodiment of “not giving a fuck,” particularly due to his unconventional lifestyle.
He is described as a “barbarian” who doesn’t conform to societal norms, which Rogan and Diaz admire.
Shafir’s lack of commitment to traditional expectations is seen as liberating and inspiring, setting him apart in the competitive comedy world.
The discussion highlights the allure of freedom and unconventionality.

4. Tony Hentsch’s Podcast and the Struggle of Aspiring Comedians

Diaz describes a powerful emotional experience he had while listening to Tony Hentsch’s podcast.
Hentsch’s podcast, while being well-respected, evokes the struggles of aspiring comedians, reminding Diaz of his own early days of yearning for success.
The podcast triggers a wave of nostalgia and empathy for Diaz, highlighting the universal experiences of pursuing a dream.
The discussion underscores the importance of recognizing and relating to others’ struggles on the path to success.

5. The Legacy of Rocky Balboa

Diaz draws parallels between the training montage in “Rocky 3” and the process of developing as a comedian.
The scene, featuring Clubber Lang’s intense training, resonates with Diaz’s experience in the comedy world, where competitors push each other to be their best.
The discussion emphasizes the power of visualizing success, even in the face of overwhelming odds, as seen in Rocky’s journey.
The discussion also touches upon the importance of recognizing past struggles and drawing strength from them.

6. Shadowboxing and Visualization in Different Disciplines

The discussion dives into the effectiveness of shadowboxing, exploring different approaches and philosophies.
Diaz and Rogan differentiate between “loosening up” shadowboxing and simulating a fight, highlighting the varying benefits of each.
They discuss the importance of visualization in sports and its potential, but find it less effective in comedy.
The discussion touches upon the complexities of the mind and its impact on physical performance, highlighting the potential of mental training.

7. The Importance of “Just Doing It”

Diaz emphasizes the importance of taking action and focusing on the process, rather than solely on the desired outcome.
He believes that excessive visualization can hinder actual performance, as it distracts from the present moment.
Diaz argues that the key to success lies in immersing oneself in the act, honing skills and letting the results follow.
The discussion highlights the importance of embracing the journey rather than being fixated on the destination.

8. The Evolution of Weed

Diaz discusses the upcoming legalization of weed in various states and its potential impact.
He expresses concern about the reduced potency of edibles, highlighting the need for consumers to adjust to the new regulations.
Diaz also discusses the benefits of CBD oil and its potential for pain relief.
The discussion touches upon the evolving legal landscape of cannabis and its impact on both personal consumption and societal views.

9. The Power of Reflection

Diaz advocates for a “don’t say dick” philosophy, advocating for personal reflection and mindfulness.
He describes a detached approach to life, choosing to observe and experience without unnecessary judgment or engagement.
Diaz’s perspective highlights the importance of mental clarity and self-awareness in a chaotic world.
The discussion touches upon the therapeutic value of mindfulness and detachment.

10. Eddie Bravo’s Jiu-Jitsu and the Tenth Planet System

Diaz passionately discusses Eddie Bravo’s innovative Jiu-Jitsu system, “Tenth Planet,” and its impact on the grappling world.
He highlights Bravo’s unique teaching style, not only in technique but also in presentation, making the art form more accessible and engaging.
Diaz emphasizes the rapid growth of the Tenth Planet system, with practitioners emerging in even small towns across the country.
The discussion underscores the power of innovation and the importance of finding unique approaches to teaching traditional disciplines.

11. The Evolution of Submission Grappling Rules

Diaz dives into the different rulesets in submission grappling, discussing the benefits and drawbacks of EBI (Eddie Bravo Invitational), Abu Dhabi, and other systems.
He highlights how different rulesets can promote different styles of fighting, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and learning different approaches.
Diaz emphasizes Bravo’s generosity in making his EBI rules available for other competitions, driven by a desire to spread the art form.
The discussion touches upon the ever-evolving nature of combat sports and the constant search for the most effective and exciting rulesets.

12. Vinny Magalez’s High-Level Guard

Diaz highlights the incredible skill of Vinny Magalez, known for his devastating guard game and submission prowess in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
He criticizes the common practice of giving negative points for pulling guard in submission grappling, arguing that a skilled grappler like Magalez can turn their back position into a lethal attack.
Diaz provides examples of Magalez’s victories over high-level opponents, demonstrating the danger of his guard.
The discussion challenges traditional grappling practices and emphasizes the importance of recognizing exceptional skill regardless of position.

13. The Impact of MMA on Submission Grappling

Diaz discusses how the addition of strikes in MMA makes grappling a more dangerous pursuit, as fighters can be vulnerable to punches.
He contrasts the safety of pure submission grappling, where fighters can focus more on grappling techniques without fear of strikes.
Diaz emphasizes how the presence of strikes influences grappling strategy, forcing fighters to be more cautious and strategic.
The discussion highlights the complexities of different combat sports and the unique challenges they present.

14. The Importance of Cultural Diversity in Fighting

Diaz acknowledges the unique strengths of different fighting styles, including Sambo, Judo, and Muay Thai.
He discusses the origins and development of Sambo, highlighting its emphasis on grappling and striking techniques.
Diaz emphasizes the cultural significance of fighting styles, relating them to the traditions and physical attributes of their respective origins.
The discussion celebrates the diversity of fighting styles and the richness of cultural traditions they represent.

15. The “Combat Sambo” Hybrid

Diaz explains the hybrid fighting style known as “Combat Sambo,” which incorporates elements of MMA with the addition of a Judo jacket.
He highlights the unique challenges and opportunities presented by this style, which blends striking, grappling, and the use of the jacket.
Diaz discusses the history of Combat Sambo, mentioning notable fighters like Fedor Emelianenko and Blagoy Ivanov.
The discussion underscores the ongoing evolution of combat sports and the emergence of new and exciting hybrids.

16. Cages vs. Open Mats

Diaz argues against the use of cages in MMA, believing they limit the dynamic movement and strategies of fighters.
He prefers open mats or larger arenas, allowing for a more natural and unpredictable flow of combat.
Diaz draws inspiration from historical fights that took place in open areas, emphasizing the natural flow of combat without boundaries.
The discussion highlights the importance of considering the impact of the environment on fighting styles and strategies.

17. The McGregor-Diaz Water Bottle Incident and Athletic Commissions

Diaz discusses the controversy surrounding Conor McGregor and Nate Diaz throwing water bottles at each other during a press conference.
He criticizes the heavy fines levied against the fighters, arguing that the altercation was simply a part of the showmanship and hype of the fight.
Diaz also questions the rationale behind testing Diaz for his CBD vape pen, highlighting the arbitrary nature of some athletic commission rules.
The discussion touches upon the complexities of athlete behavior, marketing strategies, and the often-questionable rules and regulations imposed by athletic commissions.

18. The “Smoker” Tradition and Floyd Mayweather’s Gym Fights

Diaz discusses the historical practice of “smokers,” unofficial gym fights that provide fighters with valuable experience.
He shares his experience with smokers in Muay Thai, highlighting their role in developing skills and testing limits.
Diaz then discusses Floyd Mayweather’s “dog house fights,” which are filmed and broadcast, highlighting the intensity and brutality of these gym battles.
The discussion explores the controversial nature of these fights, balancing the benefits of experience with the risks of injury.

19. The Controversy of Athletic Commissions

Diaz criticizes the often-heavy-handed approach of athletic commissions, highlighting the case of Wanderlei Silva, who was banned for life for fleeing a drug test.
He argues for more nuanced punishments, considering the context and circumstances of each incident, rather than blanket bans.
Diaz also discusses the history of steroid use in fighting, acknowledging the prevalence of performance-enhancing drugs in certain eras.
The discussion touches upon the ongoing struggle for fair and consistent enforcement of rules in combat sports.

20. The Perils of Probation and Drug Testing

Diaz shares his own experiences with probation and the intrusive nature of drug testing, highlighting the emotional and psychological toll it can take.
He discusses the harsh realities of halfway houses and the challenges of reintegrating into society after incarceration.
Diaz also highlights the often-unpredictable and intrusive nature of drug testing by athletic commissions, including random home visits and invasive procedures.
The discussion touches upon the complexities of criminal justice, rehabilitation, and the evolving landscape of drug testing in sports.

21. The Limits of Testing and the Evolving Landscape of Performance Enhancement

Diaz discusses the limitations of drug testing, acknowledging that athletes can always find new ways to enhance their performance.
He highlights the history of undetectable substances, like “the clear,” and the constant race between testing and performance enhancement.
Diaz predicts a future where genetic engineering and other advanced technologies will challenge the current boundaries of drug testing.
The discussion touches upon the ethical and scientific complexities of performance enhancement and the challenges of maintaining a level playing field.

22. Pete Rose’s Gambling Addiction and the Evolution of Baseball

Diaz reminisces about Pete Rose, a legendary baseball player, discussing his gambling addiction and its impact on his career.
He contrasts Rose’s aggressive style of play in the past with the more cautious and regulated approach to the sport today.
Diaz highlights how societal views on gambling and player behavior have shifted over time.
The discussion explores the enduring legacy of Rose and the complexities of reconciling his on-field achievements with his off-field transgressions.

23. The Raiders’ Move to Las Vegas and the Culture of Violence at Sports Events

Diaz discusses the relocation of the Raiders to Las Vegas and the potential for increased violence at their games.
He shares stories of violent incidents at sports events, highlighting the challenges of maintaining order and safety in large crowds.
Diaz questions the factors contributing to violence, including alcohol consumption, rivalry between fans, and the intensity of the games themselves.
The discussion touches upon the complexities of fan culture, stadium security, and the evolving dynamics of sports events.

24. The Evolution of Baseball Pitchers and the Human Brain

Diaz compares the speed and power of modern baseball pitchers with those of the past, highlighting the advancements in training and performance enhancement.
He discusses the potential impact of these advancements on the human body, considering the risks of injury and the strain on athletes.
Diaz then delves into the intriguing theory that the human brain’s evolution might be linked to the development of throwing.
The discussion explores the complex interplay between physical abilities, mental capacity, and the ongoing evolution of the human species.

25. The Future of Performance Enhancement and USADA

Diaz discusses the role of USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) in combat sports and its ongoing battle against performance-enhancing drugs.
He acknowledges the effectiveness of USADA in catching cheaters, but also highlights the potential challenges posed by evolving scientific advancements.
Diaz predicts a future where genetic engineering and other technologies could blur the lines between natural and enhanced performance.
The discussion raises ethical questions about the limits of drug testing and the future of competition in sports.

26. The “State-Sponsored Doping” of Russia

Diaz discusses the ongoing controversies surrounding state-sponsored doping in Russia, highlighting the widespread use of performance-enhancing drugs by athletes.
He criticizes the systemic nature of doping in Russia, pointing to the government’s role in enabling and supporting it.
Diaz highlights the impact of doping on the integrity of sports and the unfair advantage it gives to athletes from countries with such programs.
The discussion underscores the need for international cooperation and robust anti-doping measures to combat this pervasive issue.

27. The Future of Comedy and the Rise of Podcasts

Diaz discusses the transformative impact of podcasts on the comedy industry, providing a platform for comedians to express themselves freely without traditional gatekeepers.
He argues that podcasts have democratized comedy, giving voice to diverse perspectives and styles that might not have been readily available through traditional media outlets.
Diaz believes that podcasts have enabled a return to authenticity and raw humor, where comedians can be themselves without needing to conform to specific personas or formats.
The discussion highlights the power of technology to disrupt established industries and create new opportunities for creative expression.

28. The Impact of Media and the Control of Narrative

Diaz criticizes the control that traditional media outlets have over the narrative of comedy, highlighting how gatekeepers can influence who gets seen and heard.
He argues that this control can lead to the suppression of unique voices and perspectives that challenge established norms.
Diaz believes that podcasts and other alternative platforms are crucial in providing a space for comedians to break free from these limitations.
The discussion touches upon the importance of media literacy, recognizing the power of narratives and the need to diversify sources of information.

29. The Power of “Being Yourself”

Diaz emphasizes the importance of being authentic and true to oneself, particularly in the world of comedy.
He believes that the most successful comedians are those who embrace their unique voices and personalities, rather than trying to fit into pre-defined molds.
Diaz encourages comedians to break free from the pressure to conform and to express themselves honestly and creatively.
The discussion highlights the importance of authenticity and self-acceptance in achieving artistic fulfillment.

30. The 2016 Presidential Election and the State of Politics

Diaz discusses the 2016 presidential election and the political landscape in the United States, sharing his own perspectives on the candidates and their campaigns.
He criticizes the corruption and hypocrisy prevalent in politics, expressing disappointment with the choices available to voters.
Diaz also comments on the polarized nature of the election, highlighting the deep divisions within American society.
The discussion reflects the broader anxieties and uncertainties surrounding the political climate and the search for a more just and equitable future.

31. The “Crazy Texas Oil Man”

Diaz shares an anecdote about a wealthy Texas oil tycoon who lives an extravagant lifestyle.
He paints a picture of this man’s unconventional approach to life, including his frequent relationships with much younger women and his disregard for traditional norms.
Diaz explores the motivations and behaviors of this character, highlighting the complexities of human desire and the pursuit of pleasure.
The discussion touches upon the cultural stereotypes associated with wealth and the sometimes-unconventional choices made by those who possess it.

32. The Mystery of Reincarnation

Diaz ponders the concept of reincarnation, questioning why so many cultures across the world believe in life after death and the possibility of being reborn.
He explores the psychological and spiritual implications of this belief, considering the potential impact on how individuals live their lives.
Diaz also discusses the potential for reincarnation to bring comfort and purpose to those facing mortality.
The discussion delves into the philosophical and spiritual questions surrounding life, death, and the possibility of a greater purpose beyond the material world.

33. The Comedy Store’s Legacy and the Evolution of Stand-Up

Diaz discusses the importance of the Comedy Store as a hub for comedy in Los Angeles and the historical significance of its walls.
He reflects on the evolution of stand-up comedy, highlighting how the industry has changed over time in terms of style, content, and the influence of media.
Diaz reminisces about legendary comedians who graced the Comedy Store’s stage, acknowledging their impact on the art form.
The discussion underscores the importance of preserving the history and traditions of comedy and recognizing the legacy of those who paved the way.

34. Doug Stanhope’s Impact on Comedy

Diaz discusses the influence of Doug Stanhope on the comedy world, highlighting his unconventional and often-provocative style.
He emphasizes Stanhope’s ability to push boundaries and challenge societal norms with his humor.
Diaz also describes Stanhope’s relentless pursuit of artistic integrity and his refusal to compromise his vision.
The discussion acknowledges Stanhope’s lasting impact on the art form and his role in shaping the evolution of stand-up.

35. The Power of “Letting People Be Themselves”

Diaz advocates for letting comedians and other artists be themselves, believing that authenticity is the key to creating genuine and impactful work.
He criticizes the tendency to force artists into pre-defined molds, arguing that this can stifle creativity and lead to a loss of individuality.
Diaz emphasizes the importance of recognizing and celebrating diversity in the arts, embracing the unique voices and perspectives that make each artist special.
The discussion highlights the importance of artistic freedom and the value of genuine expression in the creative process.

36. The Future of Entertainment and the Rise of Streaming

Diaz discusses the rise of streaming services like Netflix and its impact on the entertainment industry, highlighting the shift in consumer behavior and the decline of traditional cable television.
He predicts that streaming services will continue to dominate the entertainment landscape, offering more diverse and unconventional content to viewers.
Diaz also emphasizes the potential for streaming services to provide a platform for independent artists and creators to reach wider audiences.
The discussion reflects the changing dynamics of the entertainment industry and the growing power of digital distribution platforms.

37. The Impact of “Game of Thrones” and “Westworld”

Diaz discusses the groundbreaking impact of television shows like “Game of Thrones” and “Westworld” on the entertainment industry.
He highlights their epic scope, complex narratives, and willingness to push boundaries in terms of content and storytelling.
Diaz also acknowledges the exceptional acting talent featured in these shows, praising the performances of actors like Ed Harris.
The discussion touches upon the evolving landscape of television, where shows are becoming more cinematic and ambitious in their storytelling.

38. The Importance of Growth and Self-Improvement

Diaz emphasizes the importance of constant growth and self-improvement, particularly in the context of comedy and martial arts.
He discusses the value of recognizing and correcting mistakes, using them as opportunities for learning and development.
Diaz also highlights the importance of pushing boundaries and challenging oneself, embracing the process of becoming a better version of oneself.
The discussion underscores the importance of a growth mindset and the pursuit of excellence in any field.

39. The Physical Evolution of Athletes

Diaz discusses the dramatic physical evolution of athletes, particularly in sports like football, highlighting the advancements in training and performance enhancement.
He observes the increasing size, strength, and speed of athletes, commenting on the potential impact of these changes on the game and on the human body itself.
Diaz also discusses the specialized training methods used by athletes, highlighting how technology and scientific understanding have revolutionized the way athletes prepare for competition.
The discussion touches upon the ongoing push for physical limits in sports and the potential for future advancements in human performance.

Memorable Quotes

“There’s not a whole lot of guys like that.” – Diaz commenting on Gabriel Iglesias’s unique generosity to fellow comedians.
“If Ari Shafir just got a vasectomy, he would give even less of a fuck.” – Rogan on Ari Shafir’s “don’t give a fuck” mentality.
“You don’t get a guy like that unless he’s a guy like that.” – Diaz on Floyd Mayweather’s unique personality and its role in his success.
“The proof is in the pudding.” – Rogan emphasizes the importance of results over mere words.
“You can’t describe these animal experiences.” – Diaz on the absurdity and unquantifiable nature of certain life experiences.