3-Nov-20
This podcast dives deep into the world of combat sports with Joe Rogan and Luke Thomas. They discuss recent developments in boxing and MMA, including controversial events and viral topics. Underlying themes include the evolution of martial arts, the psychological impact of combat sports, and the importance of proper training in law enforcement.
- The Pandemic’s Impact on Combat Sports:
- Luke Thomas discusses his recent travels for his work, navigating crowds and pandemic protocols.
- The discussion touches on the differing rules and regulations surrounding masks in different areas, specifically contrasting a casino in Native American territory with airport protocols.
- The conversation explores the psychological impact of the pandemic on individuals and the growing prominence of personal protective measures like hazmat suits.
- The topic of the pandemic’s impact on individuals extends to discussions about the mental health of frontline workers, particularly those who worked in New York City hospitals during the initial surge.
- The “Us Versus Them” Mentality in Law Enforcement and Security:
- Joe Rogan highlights the mental strain experienced by police officers due to the constant exposure to violence and trauma.
- The discussion delves into the complexities of “defunding the police” and its varying interpretations within the political spectrum.
- Both Rogan and Thomas explore the need for comprehensive training in law enforcement, emphasizing the importance of hand-to-hand combat skills and de-escalation techniques.
- Thomas shares his personal experiences working security at concerts and as a doorman, illustrating how power dynamics and preconceived notions contribute to “us versus them” mentality.
- The Evolution of Martial Arts and the Rise of MMA:
- Thomas highlights the rapid evolution of martial arts, particularly in the last 20 years, crediting MMA for accelerating the integration of different fighting styles.
- The conversation explores the effectiveness of different martial arts, specifically focusing on the impact of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in MMA.
- Rogan shares his personal experience being initially ridiculed for his involvement in the UFC but emphasizes how the sport has become a significant force in the world of martial arts.
- The podcast touches on the historical significance of the Gracie family and their role in popularizing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu through their early promotional strategies.
- Deontay Wilder’s Excuses and the Legacy of Tyson Fury:
- Thomas details the various excuses given by Deontay Wilder after his loss to Tyson Fury, including a heavy weight vest, faulty gloves, and poisoned water.
- The discussion highlights the role of Mark Brieland in Wilder’s corner and the controversy surrounding his dismissal after throwing in the towel during the fight.
- The podcast explores the mental and physical struggles of Tyson Fury leading up to his first fight with Wilder and how his recovery and strategic changes led to a decisive victory.
- Thomas emphasizes the boxing prowess of Tyson Fury, pointing to his mastery of both defensive and offensive strategies, and his ability to outmaneuver and outstrike Wilder.
- The Significance of Fainting and Footwork in MMA Striking:
- The discussion highlights the importance of effective faking and fainting in MMA striking, emphasizing the unique approach taken by City Kickboxing fighters.
- Thomas discusses the training techniques employed by Eugene Bairman, the head coach of City Kickboxing, and how they emphasize hours of shadow boxing dedicated to fainting drills.
- The podcast explores the limitations of traditional American and European striking techniques, highlighting the need for more strategic and nuanced approaches.
- Thomas highlights the success of City Kickboxing fighters, particularly Izzy Adesanya, who have embraced this strategic approach to striking.
5 Memorable Quotes:
- “It’s not a hardship. Just put on the fucking mask.”
- “Like we asked cops to do way too much shit and it resulted in a lot of problems.”
- “I’ve also noticed, you know, back when I was 24, I was working doors at various bars in New York City to make some money to make ends meet because New York City is crazy expensive and people, and I was lifting weights like crazy. I was huge. You know, the whole bit, and I’ll never forget people would always tell me, they’re like, ‘Oh, I bet people don’t want to mess with you.’ And I was like, ‘It’s totally the opposite.'”
- “It’s been really co-opted because that was the name that Radio Raheem came up with for the Radio Raheem, the boxing commentator, he came up with that for this room. To this guy. And I’m like, yeah, that guy, yeah. I’m not sure if you see that, that’s a bummer, man.”
- “He’s like, ‘The guy does not fight well off the heel, off the back foot, let’s move him back.'”