JRE Swapcast – Podcast On A Plane with John Dudley

This episode is a casual conversation between Joe Rogan and John Dudley recorded on a plane. The conversation mainly revolves around their recent hunting trip to Lanai, offering insights into their hunting experiences, gear preferences, and perspectives on the outdoors.

Major Topics

1. The “Cat Lady” Cocktail

   1. John Dudley created the “Cat Lady” cocktail during a previous podcast recording.
   2. It consists of a mixture of red wine and red bull, which John describes as “desperate” and “normal” at the same time.
   3. The cocktail became a running joke among the hunting group and a signature drink for their hunting trips.
   4. John shares his experiences with people recognizing him from the podcast and bartenders offering him “Cat Lady” cocktails.

2. Hunting Axis Deer in Lanai

   1. John and Joe discuss the challenging terrain of Lanai and its benefits for hunting training.
   2. The hunting grounds offer a unique opportunity to test hunting skills in a challenging environment.
   3. John emphasizes the importance of being able to navigate through dense foliage and make accurate shots at close range.
   4. John emphasizes the speed and agility of axis deer, requiring precise and quick responses from hunters.

3. Gear and Equipment

   1. John and Joe discuss the importance of camouflage and its effectiveness in breaking up the human form.
   2. John recommends Sit-kick gear pants with built-in knee pads for navigating challenging terrain.
   3. John praises the effectiveness of the Subalpine camo pattern for blending into a variety of environments, including whitetail and turkey hunting.
   4. John mentions the use of HEX camouflage, which is designed to block electromagnetic signals given off by the human body, and shares his belief in its effectiveness.

4. Archery and Shooting Techniques

   1. John and Joe discuss the importance of practice and consistency in archery, highlighting the benefits of using a single release aid.
   2. John describes his preference for the Silverback release aid, emphasizing its accuracy and ease of use.
   3. John discusses the importance of muscle memory and body awareness in achieving accurate shots.
   4. John and Joe compare their archery and pool shooting styles, noting similarities in the focus on relaxation, technique, and mental clarity.

5. Comedy and Stand-up Routine

   1. Joe Rogan shares his unique approach to comedy, starting from scratch every two years with a new act, embracing a beginner’s mindset.
   2. This constant renewal process forces Joe to stay sharp, avoid complacency, and focus on fundamental comedic principles.
   3. Joe describes the comedy store as a place where he can experiment with new jokes and receive immediate feedback from a discerning audience.
   4. Joe acknowledges the importance of pushing boundaries and challenging societal norms in comedy, emphasizing the need for well-thought-out and impactful material.

6. The Power of Honesty and Authenticity

   1. John and Joe discuss the role of honesty and authenticity in their respective fields, emphasizing the growing importance of direct communication and unfiltered expression.
   2. They reflect on the influence of social media in breaking down traditional media filters and allowing for more authentic representation.
   3. Joe highlights the value of showcasing genuine passion and expertise in their work, which resonates with audiences seeking genuine connections.
   4. John and Joe highlight the advantages of a “no-filter” approach, such as podcasts and live streams, which allow for a more intimate and unfiltered connection with their audiences.

7. The Impact of Podcasts

   1. John and Joe discuss the unique reach and influence of podcasts, highlighting their ability to connect with a global audience and challenge mainstream media narratives.
   2. They discuss the increasing awareness and understanding of behind-the-scenes processes, such as joke writing and hunting techniques, through podcasts.
   3. They acknowledge the growing popularity of podcasts and their ability to provide a platform for diverse voices and perspectives.
   4. They discuss the power of podcasts in promoting authentic conversations, fostering deeper engagement with audiences, and challenging traditional media formats.

8. The Importance of Technique in Diverse Fields

   1. John and Joe explore the common thread of technique across various disciplines, such as martial arts, archery, comedy, and even grilling.
   2. They emphasize the importance of mastering fundamental principles and techniques for achieving peak performance and overcoming challenges.
   3. Joe shares his admiration for comedians like Joey Diaz, highlighting their mastery of comedic timing, delivery, and economy of words.
   4. John discusses the benefits of drilling and repetition in Jiu-Jitsu, emphasizing the importance of subconscious mastery for achieving fluid and effective movements.

9. The Role of Technology in Hunting and Cooking

   1. John discusses the impact of technology on his hunting experience, highlighting the use of apps for tracking weather, managing his gear, and finding recipes.
   2. He praises the benefits of pellet grills, such as their efficiency, ease of use, and ability to maintain consistent temperatures.
   3. Joe shares his experiences with using a trigger pellet grill, emphasizing its features, such as temperature control via app and built-in meat probes.
   4. Both John and Joe express their enthusiasm for technology’s role in enhancing their outdoor experiences and culinary adventures.

10. The Power of Shared Experiences

    1. John and Joe discuss the importance of shared experiences, particularly in challenging environments like hunting trips, which foster deeper connections and understanding.
    2. They acknowledge the unique bond forged through shared struggles and triumphs, creating lasting memories and mutual respect.
    3. They highlight the importance of mutual support and collaboration, especially in situations requiring teamwork and trust.
    4. They emphasize the value of shared passions, whether it be hunting, comedy, or cooking, which connect people on a deeper level.

11. The Litmus Test of Character

    1. John and Joe discuss the unique insight that certain activities provide into a person’s character.
    2. John identifies hunting as a litmus test, revealing a person’s true nature under pressure.
    3. Joe mentions comedy as a revealing activity, highlighting the importance of resilience, quick thinking, and the ability to handle pressure.
    4. They both acknowledge the importance of observing how people react in challenging situations, as it reveals their core values and strengths.

12. The “Game Recognizes Game” Principle

    1. John and Joe highlight the concept of “game recognizes game,” where individuals in a particular field or passion can recognize and appreciate talent and expertise.
    2. They acknowledge the unique bond formed between individuals who share a deep understanding of a particular craft or activity.
    3. They discuss the importance of mutual respect and appreciation for those who have achieved mastery in their chosen field.
    4. They emphasize the universality of this principle, applying it to various fields, from hunting and comedy to sports and the arts.

13. The Evolving Landscape of Media and Entertainment

    1. John and Joe reflect on the changing landscape of media and entertainment, highlighting the rise of podcasts and the increasing demand for authenticity and unfiltered content.
    2. They discuss the impact of podcasts in challenging traditional media formats and providing a platform for diverse voices and perspectives.
    3. They acknowledge the power of podcasts in shaping public discourse, offering a direct connection with creators, and fostering deeper engagement with audiences.
    4. They highlight the importance of adaptability and innovation in navigating the ever-changing media landscape.

14. The Future of Hunting and Outdoor Activities

    1. John and Joe express their optimism about the future of hunting and outdoor activities, particularly in light of the growing popularity of podcasts and social media.
    2. They acknowledge the importance of sharing experiences, promoting responsible hunting practices, and connecting with a wider audience through various platforms.
    3. They discuss the role of technology in enhancing hunting experiences, from tracking and navigation apps to innovative gear and equipment.
    4. They emphasize the importance of preserving and promoting the traditions and values associated with hunting and outdoor life.

Memorable Quotes

• “The cat lady was a drunk that John invented two years ago in Lennie.” – Joe Rogan playfully introduces the “Cat Lady” cocktail, referencing its origins.
• “If you can successfully, especially if someone’s long and no, like where they rate. I remember last year when I elk on it with Andy, I told Andy…” – John Dudley emphasizes the unique training opportunities offered by hunting axis deer in Lanai, highlighting the challenging terrain and the skills required.
• “I became an even bigger believer in the hexu while here when we had that bird fly by and just land right behind us.” – John Dudley shares his experience with HEX camouflage, highlighting its effectiveness in deterring wildlife.
• “I’m in this very unusual stratosphere. There’s not that many people that are in this place.” – Joe Rogan acknowledges his unique position in the world of comedy, noting the unconventional nature of his career path and his ability to push boundaries.
• “I think it’s really small. And I’m talking on, like, not just a good level. I’m talking on a level where if someone said, listen, dude, you have like 10 cards to play…” – John Dudley reflects on the exclusivity of the elite level in bohunting and comedy, highlighting the rarity of such talent and dedication.