JRE #496 – Nick Cutter

5/6/2014

This podcast features a conversation with Canadian author Nick Cutter, aka Craig Davidson, known for his work in both literary and horror genres. The discussion explores the creative process, the challenges of writing in different styles, and the societal pressures surrounding masculinity and artistic expression. It also delves into the world of MMA, including the psychology of fighters, training methods, and the ethical considerations of hormone replacement therapy. Provocative topics include the overprescription of medication, the nature of bullying, the absurdity of religious extremism, and the complexities of animal captivity. Underlying themes revolve around the pursuit of authentic self-expression, the search for meaning and purpose, and the potential pitfalls of rigid belief systems.

Major Topics:

1. Nick Cutter’s Pen Name and Genre Diversification
   1. Nick Cutter is a pseudonym used by Craig Davidson for his horror writing, a deliberate choice to separate his horror work from his literary fiction.
   2. Davidson’s agent suggested the pseudonym to avoid confusion among readers and to allow for stylistic distinction.
   3. Davidson is proud of his horror writing and doesn’t see it as a departure from his literary work, but rather a different expression of his creative range.
   4. He views his literary fiction as more introspective and character-driven, while his horror writing is more action-oriented and reminiscent of classic horror authors.
2. Stephen King as a Literary Influence and the Mockery of Popular Fiction
   1. Stephen King is a major influence on Davidson, who considers him a master of horror and a writer who understands the psychological complexities of fear.
   2. Davidson notes the trend in literary circles to dismiss King and other popular fiction writers as “lowbrow” or lacking in intellectual depth.
   3. He argues that this elitist attitude overlooks the genuine literary merit of King’s work, which often explores complex psychological themes and engaging narrative structures.
   4. Davidson believes that dismissing popular fiction based on genre stereotypes is a form of intellectual snobbery that stifles appreciation for diverse forms of storytelling.
3. The Challenges of Scare Tactics in Modern Horror
   1. Davidson acknowledges the difficulty of effectively scaring readers in an era saturated with horror content and desensitized audiences.
   2. He believes that Stephen King’s success lies in his ability to create believable and psychologically resonant horror that transcends shock value.
   3. Davidson’s approach to horror writing focuses on building suspense, exploring character motivations, and crafting immersive narratives that resonate with readers on a deeper level.
   4. He aims to create a sense of unease and dread rather than relying on jump scares or gratuitous violence to achieve a desired effect.
4. The Rejection of Masculinity and the Misinterpretation of Male Behavior
   1. Davidson observes a cultural trend of dismissing or demonizing traditionally masculine interests and behaviors, often linking them to misogyny and aggression.
   2. He argues that this rejection ignores the positive aspects of masculinity, such as competition, physical prowess, and a desire for adventure.
   3. Davidson emphasizes that not all men who enjoy traditionally masculine activities are inherently misogynistic or violent, and that these interests can be pursued in healthy and ethical ways.
   4. He believes that this cultural bias against masculinity can be harmful, leading to the suppression of positive male attributes and hindering efforts to address the real issues of misogyny and violence.
5. The Overprescription of Medication and its Implications for Mental Health
   1. Davidson highlights the prevalence of overprescription of medication, particularly antidepressants, and its potential contribution to the rise of mental health issues and violent behavior.
   2. He argues that focusing solely on medication as a solution for mental health challenges overlooks other contributing factors, such as childhood trauma, social isolation, and societal pressures.
   3. Davidson emphasizes the importance of addressing the root causes of mental health issues through therapy, counseling, and social support, rather than relying solely on pharmaceuticals.
   4. He believes that overreliance on medication can mask underlying issues, potentially leading to unintended consequences and contributing to a cycle of dependence and unhealthy coping mechanisms.
6. The Importance of Finding a Receptive Audience for Creative Work
   1. Davidson emphasizes the importance of connecting with a receptive audience for creative work, particularly in fields like horror writing and stand-up comedy, where personal expression can be polarizing.
   2. He believes that finding an audience who appreciates your style and subject matter is crucial for artistic success and fulfillment.
   3. Davidson’s own career has been marked by finding an audience for his unique blend of horror and literary fiction, proving that a receptive audience is essential for artistic growth and validation.
   4. He acknowledges that not every audience will resonate with every artist’s work, and that seeking out those who appreciate your creative vision is key to sustaining a career in the arts.
7. The Role of Upbringing in Shaping Individual Relationships and Worldviews
   1. Davidson believes that early childhood experiences and familial relationships play a significant role in shaping an individual’s outlook on life and their interactions with others.
   2. He highlights the importance of positive role models, healthy communication, and a supportive environment in fostering healthy relationships and promoting positive social interactions.
   3. Davidson acknowledges the impact of negative experiences, such as parental abuse or neglect, on an individual’s development and their ability to form healthy relationships.
   4. He believes that understanding the impact of upbringing is essential for addressing societal issues such as violence, misogyny, and social inequality.
8. The Morality of Violence and the Justifications for Self-Defense
   1. Davidson explores the complexities of violence, acknowledging the inherent brutality of certain acts while justifying self-defense against individuals who pose a clear and present threat.
   2. He believes that certain actions, such as child abuse, warrant swift and decisive action to protect vulnerable individuals, even if it involves the use of force.
   3. Davidson’s perspective aligns with the idea that not all lives are equal when considering individuals who commit heinous acts against others, particularly those who target children.
   4. He argues for a nuanced approach to morality, recognizing that while violence is generally abhorrent, there are situations where it may be justified to protect the innocent.
9. The Nature of Bullying and its Impact on Individuals and Society
   1. Davidson believes that bullying often stems from personal experiences of abuse or trauma, creating a cycle of violence and aggression.
   2. He observes that individuals who have been bullied, particularly those who have experienced physical abuse, can develop a resilience and steely determination that can manifest in both positive and negative ways.
   3. Davidson acknowledges the psychological impact of bullying, highlighting the profound effects it can have on an individual’s self-esteem, relationships, and overall well-being.
   4. He advocates for addressing bullying at its root causes, providing support and resources for both victims and perpetrators to break the cycle of violence and promote healthy social interactions.
10. The Psychology of Fighters and the Quest for Championship Glory
    1. Davidson explores the psychological mindset of elite fighters, emphasizing the relentless dedication, unwavering belief in oneself, and unwavering commitment to training that are necessary to reach championship level.
    2. He acknowledges that this intense focus and dedication can be both a strength and a weakness, leading to a relentless pursuit of victory that can sometimes overshadow other aspects of life.
    3. Davidson believes that the psychological makeup of a champion fighter is a delicate balance of confidence, discipline, and the ability to push oneself to the absolute limit, often at the expense of personal relationships and other priorities.
    4. He acknowledges the toll that high-level competition can take on both physical and mental health, highlighting the importance of responsible training practices and support systems to help fighters navigate the demands of a demanding sport.
11. The Role of Genetics and Mentorship in Athletic Success
    1. Davidson emphasizes the role of genetics in athletic success, recognizing that natural talent plays a significant role in determining an individual’s potential.
    2. He highlights the importance of mentorship and training in developing an athlete’s potential, acknowledging that proper guidance and instruction can transform talent into championship-caliber performance.
    3. Davidson observes that even with exceptional talent, athletes often require a combination of hard work, dedication, and mentorship to reach their full potential.
    4. He acknowledges that some athletes may reach a plateau in their development despite their efforts, and that accepting those limitations is essential for navigating a competitive career.
12. The Ethical Considerations of Hormone Replacement Therapy (TRT) in Competitive Sports
    1. Davidson discusses the ethical concerns surrounding the use of TRT in competitive sports, particularly in MMA, where the use of testosterone-boosting substances can give athletes an unfair advantage over their naturally-endowed competitors.
    2. He argues that TRT can mask the effects of brain trauma and other injuries, potentially leading to long-term health consequences for athletes.
    3. Davidson supports the current ban on TRT in MMA and other combat sports, emphasizing the importance of maintaining fairness and safety for all athletes.
    4. He believes that the development of advanced performance-enhancing technologies, such as nanobots, raises even more complex ethical considerations for the future of sports.
13. The Nature of Animal Captivity and the Ethical Dilemma of Zoos
    1. Davidson explores the ethical implications of animal captivity, particularly in zoos, where wild animals are confined to artificial environments that can have a profound impact on their behavior and well-being.
    2. He acknowledges the inherent conflict between providing educational opportunities for humans and ensuring the well-being of animals in captivity.
    3. Davidson believes that zoos should prioritize the welfare of animals, providing them with spacious and stimulating enclosures that more closely resemble their natural habitats.
    4. He argues for a balanced approach to animal conservation and education, emphasizing the importance of ethical practices that prioritize the well-being of animals while still providing opportunities for learning and appreciation of the natural world.
14. The Dangers of Compartmentalized Thinking and the Importance of Open-Mindedness
    1. Davidson highlights the dangers of compartmentalized thinking, where individuals adopt rigid belief systems that resist critical analysis and questioning.
    2. He observes that this type of thinking can lead to prejudice, intolerance, and harmful behaviors, particularly when applied to social and political issues.
    3. Davidson emphasizes the importance of open-mindedness, critical thinking, and a willingness to engage with different perspectives to foster understanding and promote tolerance.
    4. He believes that open and honest dialogue is essential for challenging bias, confronting hypocrisy, and promoting a more just and equitable society.
15. The Influence of Religion on Individual Belief Systems and Social Attitudes
    1. Davidson explores the impact of religion on individual belief systems, acknowledging the power of faith to provide comfort, meaning, and structure to life.
    2. He also highlights the potential downsides of rigid religious dogma, which can lead to intolerance, prejudice, and a resistance to critical thinking.
    3. Davidson observes that religious indoctrination can occur at a young age, shaping an individual’s worldview and often shaping their social and political attitudes.
    4. He believes that fostering open-minded dialogue and encouraging critical thinking are crucial for countering the negative aspects of religious extremism and promoting tolerance and understanding.
16. The Nature of Creativity and the Importance of Authenticity in Artistic Expression
    1. Davidson emphasizes the importance of authenticity in artistic expression, highlighting the dangers of plagiarism and derivative work.
    2. He believes that true artistic creativity stems from a genuine desire to express oneself through one’s unique experiences and perspectives.
    3. Davidson acknowledges the influence of other artists, but argues that artists should strive to find their own voice and develop their own unique style.
    4. He believes that artistic originality is not about creating something entirely new, but rather about finding a fresh and authentic way to express oneself within the context of existing artistic traditions.
17. The Role of Personal Experience in Shaping Creative Work and the Quest for Meaning
    1. Davidson emphasizes the role of personal experience in shaping creative work, arguing that tapping into one’s own memories, emotions, and perspectives can lead to authentic and meaningful storytelling.
    2. He believes that even if the story itself is not entirely original, the writer’s unique perspective and personal experiences can bring a fresh and compelling dimension to the narrative.
    3. Davidson’s own writing often draws on his experiences, both positive and negative, to create characters and narratives that resonate with readers on a personal level.
    4. He believes that the search for meaning and purpose is a fundamental human drive that often fuels creative endeavors, driving artists to explore their own experiences and connect with others through their work.
18. The Importance of Self-Reflection and the Acceptance of Limitations
    1. Davidson emphasizes the importance of self-reflection and acknowledging one’s limitations, particularly in the pursuit of athletic and artistic goals.
    2. He believes that accepting one’s place in the world and acknowledging the reality of one’s limitations is essential for navigating the ups and downs of life.
    3. Davidson acknowledges the importance of striving for excellence, but cautions against the dangers of pursuing unrealistic expectations and ignoring the value of personal growth and fulfillment.
    4. He believes that finding meaning and purpose in life is not solely about achieving external success, but also about embracing one’s unique journey and finding fulfillment in the pursuit of one’s passions.

5 Memorable Quotes:

1. “Stephen King is my idol. There’s no nobody. I’ve read more than Stephen King.”
2. “I don’t trust my agent at all. They don’t get to talk to me about that type of thing.”
3. “I love Stephen King. I love a lot of writers that you guys seem to think are, you know, base or below your esteem. And who are you in the first place? We’re just sitting in some writing workshop. You haven’t published a goddamn thing.”
4. “I don’t believe that all lives are created equal. I think that there’s a yin and a yang to the world. There’s good and bad. There’s positive and negative. There’s give and take. And you gotta trim weeds. You gotta you gotta shoot dogs that have rabies.”
5. “The most horrific thing about sexual abuse is that a lot of the abused become abusers when they get older. It’s sort of like a repetitive of the sun reexpresses the sins of the father.”