JRE #690 – Ronda Rousey & Edmond Tarverdyan

This podcast features an in-depth conversation with Ronda Rousey and her coach Edmond Tarverdyan. They discuss Ronda’s rise to fame and dominance in MMA, their unique relationship, and controversial topics like the use of steroids in the sport. Underlying themes explore the mental toughness required for success in MMA, the evolution of the sport, and the challenges of handling fame and pressure.

Major Topics Covered:

1. Ronda Rousey’s Early Life and Judo Background:
   • Ronda’s upbringing in a competitive, high-achieving family, with a focus on excelling at chosen pursuits.
   • Her early struggles with Judo training, including constant overtraining, weight cutting, and emotional distress.
   • Ronda’s decision to leave home at 18, seeking independence and proving her ability to succeed on her own.
   • Her success in winning the World Cup in Judo without a coach, demonstrating her innate talent and determination.
2. Ronda Rousey and Edmond Tarverdyan’s Relationship:
   • Their initial rocky start, with Edmond initially reluctant to train Ronda due to her unconventional background.
   • Ronda’s dedication and work ethic, impressing Edmond and earning his respect.
   • The development of a unique dynamic between coach and athlete, based on mutual trust and belief in each other.
   • Edmond’s unwavering confidence in Ronda’s abilities, constantly reinforcing her belief in her own potential.
3. Ronda Rousey’s Dominance in MMA:
   • Ronda’s rapid rise to prominence in MMA, quickly becoming a dominant force in the women’s division.
   • Her unique striking style, developed under Edmond’s guidance, which has proven to be devastatingly effective.
   • Her ability to handle the immense pressure and scrutiny that comes with being a champion, maintaining a professional demeanor.
   • Her constant evolution as a fighter, continually refining her skills and pushing the boundaries of the sport.
4. The Controversial World of Steroid Use in MMA:
   • Ronda’s perspective on steroid use in the sport, highlighting the mental and physical effects of performance-enhancing drugs.
   • The discussion of Cyborg’s steroid use and its impact on her physical appearance and fighting style.
   • The importance of strict drug testing in MMA and the evolution of testing methods to combat cheating.
   • Ronda’s stance against steroid use, emphasizing the importance of natural talent and hard work.
5. The Challenges of Weight Cutting in MMA:
   • Ronda’s experience with weight cutting in Judo and MMA, highlighting the extreme measures often employed to make weight.
   • The potential risks and downsides of weight cutting, including dehydration, injuries, and mental strain.
   • The debate over the use of IVs for weight cutting, with Ronda expressing her opposition to the practice.
   • Ronda’s perspective on the potential for weight classes in MMA to be adjusted to reduce the need for extreme weight cuts.
6. The Evolution of MMA and the Future of Women’s Fighting:
   • Ronda’s impact on the sport of MMA, paving the way for women’s fighting to gain wider acceptance and popularity.
   • The emergence of new techniques and styles in MMA, including the increasing prevalence of leg locks.
   • Ronda’s unique approach to training and fighting, emphasizing the importance of mastering core concepts over memorizing individual moves.
   • Ronda’s vision for the future of women’s fighting, pushing for greater recognition and opportunities for female athletes.
7. Ronda Rousey’s Perspective on Fame and Pressure:
   • Ronda’s unique ability to handle the overwhelming attention and pressure that comes with being a world champion.
   • Her realization that she is part of a larger movement, inspiring other women and challenging societal expectations.
   • Her honest and self-aware perspective on the challenges of fame, acknowledging the difficulty of navigating the public eye.
   • Ronda’s desire to leave a lasting impact on the sport, pushing for greater recognition of women’s fighting and inspiring future generations.
8. The Importance of Mental Toughness in MMA:
   • Ronda’s unwavering mental toughness, developed through years of rigorous training and overcoming adversity.
   • Her ability to push through pain, exhaustion, and doubt, demonstrating the power of mental resilience.
   • The importance of mental preparation in MMA, going beyond physical conditioning and understanding the mental game.
   • Ronda’s ability to remain focused and confident in the face of intense pressure, proving that mental fortitude is just as important as physical prowess.
9. The Role of the Coach in MMA:
   • The crucial role of the coach in guiding and supporting fighters throughout their careers.
   • Edmond’s philosophy of coaching, emphasizing patience, observation, and tailoring training to the individual fighter.
   • The importance of understanding a fighter’s personality and mental state, in addition to their physical skills.
   • The bond between coach and athlete, built on trust, respect, and a shared commitment to achieving success.
10. The Future of Ronda Rousey:
    • Ronda’s plans for her future, acknowledging that her current level of success is unlikely to be replicated.
    • Her desire to continue competing in MMA while pursuing other interests, including acting and business ventures.
    • Her realization that she has achieved a level of success that transcends the sport, leaving a lasting impact on the world.
    • Ronda’s ambition to continue pushing boundaries and inspiring future generations, both in sports and beyond.

Memorable Quotes:

• “I like to think of myself as more of, like, the heel, like, the bad guy that you somehow, like, sometimes root for.” – Ronda Rousey acknowledges her antagonist role in the sport, attracting both admiration and criticism.
• “I don’t think anyone would actually be happy with that lifestyle. I don’t think they really truly want it.” – Ronda reflects on the allure of fame, pointing out the reality of the pressures and sacrifices involved in being a world champion.
• “I’ve been brought up to think that it wasn’t your mission in life to be happy. It was your mission in life to leave the world better than how you found it.” – Ronda shares her unconventional view on happiness, emphasizing responsibility and contribution over personal fulfillment.
• “It’s a mental thing. I actually get to put in the 4 ounce gloves, and he does, like, his rap, he does the best rap, like, ever. Yeah. It’s it’s unbelievable.” – Ronda describes her ritualistic preparation before fights, highlighting the mental focus and intensity she brings to the ring.
• “I’m not gonna be a better fighter in my thirties. No. No. Not really. I don’t wanna be fighting in my thirties.” – Ronda confidently articulates her plan for retirement, suggesting a focused approach to her career and the future.